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    maby if you make a wodden body like you want, then mold or get a pro to mold lexan over it. then you have a scale detailed body for the shelf and braging rights and a identical lexan body for the track

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    Thanks man, yeah i'd love to make some lexan copies of my builds but after looking into it, i realised that to get all the shapes and angles, you'd have to do it in pieces. Like some of the more detailed shells out there, the front and rear ends would have to be done seperately to get it right. Still may try it one day, but i'll probably make a solid body just for doing molds from.



    Well ive been doing lots more pre-thinking and searching round for reference pics and facts about the Mk1 Escort. I wanna make sure how its all gonna go together before i start cutting wood. One concern was the tires and rims i could use. The Slayer has pretty big knuckles and 14mm hexes, don't think i could get a 2.2 rim on there very deep. I may use some Slayer SC rims and just change the look of the face a bit. At least this would leave me with lots of tire options.

    SC tires are about 4.3 inch tall so i hoped this would be correct. I found a good side shot of a real Escort and blew it up in photoshop to an 18 inch WB then measured the real tires diameter at this scale. To my amazement and joy, it worked out to 4.25 inches. Hoorah!


    Got a question for you guys that may be familiar with this car more than i.
    I've seen lots of pics of this car, and half of them have wide flared fenders and the rest have smaller ones.

    Were these different year models, stock options or some rally aftermarket thing?

    I think i'm going with the smaller flares but i'm not sure yet, depends on what wheels i go with.




    While in photoshop today, i also layered a nice side shot of an escort with a side shot of the chassis i built to see how it was gonna sit.
    Really helps me visualize how to construct the body. Looks cool too.

    More soon.



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    that photoshopped pic is cool! thats such a good way to visualize the right sizing of everything. thanks for sharing!

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    MK2! its not to late to change! LOL there's loads of MK1's and 2's over here for the rallying... get her sideways round every corner! :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeenyus View Post
    that photoshopped pic is cool! thats such a good way to visualize the right sizing of everything. thanks for sharing!
    Indeed!

    Along with the quintessential blue-on-white rally stripe, the flared fenders, I'm pretty sure, were aftermarket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headquake View Post
    Got a question for you guys that may be familiar with this car more than i.
    I've seen lots of pics of this car, and half of them have wide flared fenders and the rest have smaller ones.

    Were these different year models, stock options or some rally aftermarket thing?

    Usually, race cars need to be homologated, which just means that a certain number of them need to be sold to the public in order to qualify for racing. The catch is that the homologated cars must be equipped with some of the parts that will be used for racing. If they want a Cosworth BDA engine in the race car, they need to have it in the one they sell to the public. If they want the fender flares on the race car, they need to put them on the production model. Invariably what happens is that the homologated cars end up being sold to private race teams so they can turn them into real race cars. So yes the cars with the flares are technically production models. It is unlikely however to have actually seen one on public roads. As you can see in the pics of the race car, it doesn't have much in the way of comfort. They would have been sold without an interior and fitted with lightweight body panels and special performance parts not available on the consumer models.

    Not sure about this car but typically the homologation numbers for rally racing is 500 units.



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    mark 1 for sure!!
    This thing is gonna be so cool no matter which one you do. Having said that I love the meaty look of the fatty flaired one. It looks like it deserves a fat tire :)

    also wiki says the fat fender was a high performance factory available version called the 1300e then turned into the rs1600 both MK I s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radioflyer View Post
    Usually, race cars need to be homologated, which just means that a certain number of them need to be sold to the public in order to qualify for racing. The catch is that the homologated cars must be equipped with some of the parts that will be used for racing. If they want a Cosworth BDA engine in the race car, they need to have it in the one they sell to the public. If they want the fender flares on the race car, they need to put them on the production model. Invariably what happens is that the homologated cars end up being sold to private race teams so they can turn them into real race cars. So yes the cars with the flares are technically production models. It is unlikely however to have actually seen one on public roads. As you can see in the pics of the race car, it doesn't have much in the way of comfort. They would have been sold without an interior and fitted with lightweight body panels and special performance parts not available on the consumer models.

    Not sure about this car but typically the homologation numbers for rally racing is 500 units.



    Sean
    Exactly this. All the reasons for the flares are explained perfectly. Rally was very strict about this, especially in Group B. Glad to see some progress Rick!
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    COuple of things... You stole my idea!I made a nitro onroad 4wd car about 20 years ago that was made from plywood, maple, tiny chains, and 70's foam car tires! haha!
    Yours is better though!

    Also, don't forget to account for suspension sag in your 'overlayered' picture there. This thing will sag the suspension a bunch with that weight, so maybe think of that before starting to load on the wood and glue, or your wheels might be up in the cabin some place when you put it on the floor!

    Nice project, Rick! Would like to see it some time this year!

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    Thanks Chris, yes come play again this year!
    I put really stiff springs on it and may try and limit the travel some. Doesn't need much i don't think. This Traxxas shock set up has way too much travel as is.

    Hmmmmmmm, thanks for all that info guys. I can't decide on which to do. I love the small flares and i think the SC tires would look good under it but too skinny under the fat flares. If i could figure out some fatter tires maybe, ive been searching for a while now, its hard to find a nice rally car type tread in a size thats bigger than 4.3 inch diameter. I don't mind doing tire mods to make a bigger tire fit an SC rim. Could deepen the rim abit too on the 2.2 side.

    The fat flared body would be a little easier to do too. Doesn't have that body line down the side.

    I don't know, i like the more stock look of the small flares but........ hmmm

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