PDA

View Full Version : TCS Fiat Abarth 1000 TCR



Pages : [1] 2

mikevillena
12-16-2012, 01:47 PM
Well, it's been four years or so since I've done anything with RC cars and with a Chicago area Tamiya TCS race coming up in March 2013 I thought I'd get back into things by ordering the re-issued kit and trying for a "Best of Show". UPS man should be darkening my doorway sometime tomorrow. Anyway, I thought I'd do some serious research to try and get a decent and reasonably accurate build. Along the way, I found pics of an old project that was never completed (had the bodyshell stolen when my storage locker was broken into). Although I will be doing an accurate Abarth Corse paint scheme on the new, I thought I'd share what the old one looked like:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/Tazio013.jpg
Hand painted a portrait of "Il Mantovano Volante" in oils on the reverse side which was challenging. Not sure if the oil paint would have held up to several layers of Tamiya PS spray.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/Tazio011.jpg
Anyway, I think I'll get warmed up by trying to replicate the twin Webers just as I did with my Mini Cooper project:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Mini%20Cooper/MiniCooperR039.jpg
Hope to post some starting pics soon. This is going to be fun :lol:

imthatguy
12-16-2012, 05:05 PM
HOLY CRAP!

Today is an amazing day. Folks, if you haven't had a chance to go through any of Mike's threads before, believe me when I tell you you're in for a real treat here.

Welcome back to the land of RC, Mike! We're happy to have you!

mikevillena
12-16-2012, 07:07 PM
HOLY CRAP!

Today is an amazing day. Folks, if you haven't had a chance to go through any of Mike's threads before, believe me when I tell you you're in for a real treat here.

Welcome back to the land of RC, Mike! We're happy to have you!

:o I thank you but you are giving me too much credit. To be honest all I've done in the past was to apply simple modelling techniques and a little creativity. It's that simple; cut and glue pieces of styrene together. That's something that anyone can do and from what I've seen so far, everyone here is more than capable of outstanding work. Certainly far better than what I can do.

imthatguy
12-16-2012, 07:19 PM
:o I thank you but you are giving me too much credit. To be honest all I've done in the past was to apply simple modelling techniques and a little creativity. It's that simple; cut and glue pieces of styrene together. That's something that anyone can do and from what I've seen so far, everyone here is more than capable of outstanding work. Certainly far better than what I can do.

Thou dost protest too much. Credit where credit's due sir. If it wasn't for you, I probably wouldn't be building scale anythings.

mikevillena
12-16-2012, 07:59 PM
But you could have easily seen Gerald Winegrove's work. I just saw some modeller scratchbuilding a Porsche 936/78 in 1/8th scale somewhere in this forum. Probably the same guy who also scratchbuilt a 935/78 Moby Dick also in 1/8th scale. Geeze, these guys make my best stuff look like total garbage. I can choose to throw my arms up in the air, throw everything away and take up knitting. But I chose to look to them for inspiration and try harder at refining my meager skills and acquiring new ones. You have to admit that there is a tremendous amount of satisfaction in being able to replicate something no matter how crude it may look when compared to other people's work. And you build on that early success regardless of simplicity and constantly strive to improve. This applies to everything in life be it model making, riding a sportbike or playing the violin, etc. In truth, it's nothing but simple mechanical skills. You keep doing it until it is hardwired into your brain. You do the same thing with creativity. You can train yourself to think outside of the box. Always ask yourself "is there a better way to do this?" Always look at simple everyday objects like a piece of cloth or an empty bottle as possible materials to use in future projects. Look beyond the obvious and don't confine yourself to traditional materials such as styrene. A long time ago, I was trying to figure out a way to replicate a turbocharger housing. I remember wandering around Hobby Lobby looking at oil paints for painting portraits when I came across modelling clay called Premo!:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/PA190005.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/PA190006.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/PA280054.jpg

Sorry about the long winded reply. But you need to give yourself credit as well since you did your own work with your own hands and your own creativity. Bravo to you! :clap:

mikevillena
12-16-2012, 08:13 PM
And while we are talking about thinking outside of the box here's another example. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out a better way to model headlights. I didn't like the way headlight stickers looked and the fact that the lenses didn't have the fluting. I developed a technique using clear nail polish:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/P2210031.jpg

Another technique is replicating license plates. This time I used heavy duty aluminum foil:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Trueno/P8090010.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Trueno/P8090011.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Trueno/P8090015.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Trueno/P8090016.jpg

TheOtherSide
12-16-2012, 08:30 PM
That's some awesome work!!!

mikevillena
12-16-2012, 08:39 PM
Thank you. I hope it gives you some ideas even if they are old. I'll have to see if I still have even the simplest skills (at least enough not to glue my fingers together).

alan
12-16-2012, 08:49 PM
It's all nuts! I've seen it around and I can't believe you're here live on SBG, Mike! An amazing day indeed!:rock:

mikevillena
12-16-2012, 09:17 PM
:o I'm surprised that anyone even remembers my old crap. You guys are too much. Thanks!

Knytemare
12-16-2012, 10:14 PM
Oh man, Mike Villena is here?! Awesome! Your Mazda Miata with scratchbuilt interior on an old Tamiya M-02 chassis got me started in concourse bodies! Your AE86 was superb as well! Glad to see you here and that you are back in the game!

Honger
12-17-2012, 12:07 AM
:o I'm surprised that anyone even remembers my old crap. You guys are too much. Thanks!

Oh, you mean this old crap?
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/4age/4age077.jpg

Really Mike, you are one of the craftsmen in the hobby. I'm not trying to inflate your ego here... just rib you for your modesty and show the other guys here, who may be unfamiliar with your work, what they have to look forward to.

Carry on the Abarth build... I'm subscribed.

Ikaros
12-17-2012, 03:12 AM
I'm in :popcorn:

Awesome stuff you're showing here

mikevillena
12-17-2012, 05:21 AM
Thanks guys :o:o:o:o:o

While waiting for the kit to arrive I've come up with a short list of mods that I'd like to incorporate in the build. None of them are too ambitious considering that I probably retained very little in the way of scratchbuilding skills and that I will have at best two months to devote to it. I specifically chose the Fiat Abarth because of the high level of detail already built into the model including the engine. However, I'm almost certain that the prospective concourse field will have quite a few of them (for the same reason). The key is how to make my build stand out from everyone else. Another goal is for me to remain consistent with the build quality throughout. I think I will first concentrate on "improving" the Tamiya engine and then applying the same level of detail and finish to every other aspect of the build.

Engine: Grind everything off and build up the missing lower block and dry sump. Scratch build new timing cover, pump, alternator, pulleys and toothed belt. Modify and "accurize" the intake manifold. The Tamiya Weber carbs are pretty good out of the box so I might opt to simply modify them instead of building a new set from scratch. The exhaust system will be scratch built.

Engine compartment: Grind everything off and scratch build extensively including all fittings, coolant reservoir, catch tank, etc. The super thick and chunky rear cover will be modified extensively and thinned so that the louvers will be visually correct and open. Additionally, the hood will be hinged and new support struts will be scratch built along with functional rubber hold downs.

Interior: Will be scratch built. The depth will be determined by how much room the built up running M05 chassis needs.

Front end: The hood will be opened and hinged with correct and functional rubber hold downs. Extensive scratch building will be needed to model the luggage compartment. I think I will also model the long range fuel tank so as to hide most of the M05 front shock tower and shocks. The headlights will be extensive modified with new lenses made complete with fluting. New reflectors for both the headlights and the running lights. The Abarth grille will also be modified extensively so that the square holes are open. New water and oil radiators will have to be built. And of course the distinctive wiper will be scratch built.

More to follow.

mikevillena
12-17-2012, 06:39 AM
Oh, you mean this old crap?
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/4age/4age077.jpg

Really Mike, you are one of the craftsmen in the hobby. I'm not trying to inflate your ego here... just rib you for your modesty and show the other guys here, who may be unfamiliar with your work, what they have to look forward to.

Carry on the Abarth build... I'm subscribed.

Thank you Honger for the very kind compliments. But to be honest, all I did was to cut and glue pieces of styrene together. Look at the photo. The key is to be able to break everything down regardless of complexity to a few simple shapes and then combining those simple shapes into a cohesive mass. I do the same thing every time I create solid models in ProE :
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/michaelvillena/sample21.png
What appears to be overwhelming is really an assembly of individual parts or components. And each individual part is comprised of shapes. Almost all of what you see is either "extruded" or "revolved". And the process is either additive or subtractive.
Or whenever I paint a portrait:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t280/michaelvillena/PaintingsFall2012148.jpg
I think most folks get overwhelmed whenever they see something that is visually complex. Remember, everything man made or in nature can be broken down into it's simplest form either in physical shape, size or it's chemistry.

Headquake
12-17-2012, 07:05 AM
I think folks are happy you are here because we are also of this more scratch building/modelling type of RC people. We changed this forum to be more dedicated to this, and lost alot of old members who weren't. SBG is not just about RC crawlers, but scale trucks, cars, buildings, whatever. Just scale creativity in general, the art of making things by hand, and good positive support and friendship.

From having seen some of your older builds on other forums, it just seems that you fit in here well, and its always nice to meet more like minded, creatively skilled people in this sometimes mostly cheap commercial driven world.

I hope you keep creating and sharing, welcome to the SBG clubhouse.
:beerchug:

mikevillena
12-17-2012, 07:24 AM
Thank you Headquake. You are a superb master craftsman in your own right as are so many others in this forum. I am truly happy that I found you guys. :beerchug:
EDIT: It's taking me a while to look through the countless build threads but from what I've seen so far.....YOU GUYS ARE NUTS!!!! And I thought I was crazy....:bowdown: Really glad and honored to be here.

imthatguy
12-17-2012, 07:37 AM
Thank you Headquake. You are a superb master craftsman in your own right as are so many others in this forum. I am truly happy that I found you guys. :beerchug:
EDIT: It's taking me a while to look through the countless build threads but from what I've seen so far.....YOU GUYS ARE NUTS!!!! And I thought I was crazy....:bowdown: Really glad and honored to be here.

If you haven't yet, take a look at pardonmyn00b's thread on his Isuzu Trooper.

http://scalebuildersguild.com/forum/showthread.php?20097-SAS-d-Isuzu-Trooper-featuring-Mittens-the-hamster

mikevillena
12-17-2012, 07:43 AM
If you haven't yet, take a look at pardonmyn00b's thread on his Isuzu Trooper.

http://scalebuildersguild.com/forum/showthread.php?20097-SAS-d-Isuzu-Trooper-featuring-Mittens-the-hamster
EXACTLY MY POINT.....YOU GUYS ARE NUTS!!!!! Here I am with my dinky scratchbuilt little stuff and modified lexan bodyshells and you guys scratchbuild everything. Geez, I'll have to try hard and get up to speed so that I won't stick out like a sore thumb. rofl

UNGLEWD
12-17-2012, 08:21 AM
Well if this doesn't inspire me to take that Abarth project down off the shelf nothing will.
Great detail, the turbo tip and clear nail polish are brilliant.
? The nail polish is applied to the inside of the polycarbonate and scribed with a hobby knife after ?

mikevillena
12-17-2012, 09:03 AM
Well if this doesn't inspire me to take that Abarth project down off the shelf nothing will.
Great detail, the turbo tip and clear nail polish are brilliant.
? The nail polish is applied to the inside of the polycarbonate and scribed with a hobby knife after ?

Your Abarth build is awesome. Yes, I applied the clear nail polish on the inside surface of the lens. It is a PITA at first because you need to experiment. Different brands and formulations cure at different rates so practice on scrap lexan first to get a feel for it. What you want is to apply successive coats one after the other before the preceding coat has cured fully. This way the entire lump of nail polish is still soft but not enough to stick to the knife blade. Actually, I used the rounded corner of an old eraser shield (drafting stuff) to make the indentations. I also wet the "blade" with water constantly to keep it from sticking. To help guide me, I made a pattern by laying a piece of clear clingy kitchen wrap over the HPI headlight sticker. Then I traced the indentation lines using a fine tip marker. I then took that "guide" and laid it on the outside face of the headlight lens.
This is another view of the lens after the nail polish has been indented and cured:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/P2250040.jpg

While not exactly perfect, it's still better than just using the sticker:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/P2240036.jpg

BTW, I also use the kitchen wrap trick whenever I have to hand paint stuff on the inside of lexan body shells. (Tazio's portrait)

slipangle
12-17-2012, 09:48 AM
Nice! Glad to see you building again mike!! was in love with your drift builds from the drift forums! inspired building returns!!

mikevillena
12-17-2012, 02:07 PM
Nice! Glad to see you building again mike!! was in love with your drift builds from the drift forums! inspired building returns!!

Thanks slip! Glad to be back and itching to start building again. As a matter of fact, the UPS man was here....YAY!!! I have to pull the workbench back together again and will post pics shortly.

mikevillena
12-17-2012, 06:13 PM
Okay, project TVR0028 has begun. I'm going to start with the engine as it will set the level of detail and build quality throughout the project.
The injection molded detail parts look good and clean with no flash and minimal part lines:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild001_zpse1d53b6f.jpg
First problem encountered is that the Tamiya valve cover is incorrect for a factory 1000 TCR. According to my sources, the correct engine is Tipo 210G. Perhaps Tamiya was trying to work with limitations of injection molding and keeping things simple.
Here's the Tamiya part:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild002_zpsb239d017.jpg
Here's the correct valve cover:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/TIPO210G-4CYL-1000cc-1967_zps9e968970.jpg
More engine reference shots:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/TIPO210G-4CYL-1000cc-1967-2_zps1922f475.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/TIPO200-4CYL-1000cc-1965_zpsba25e45a.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/TIPO200-4CYL-1000cc-1965-2_zpsdc2950bb.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/TIPO200-4CYL-1000cc-1965-1_zps3142b791.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/imagesCA31JUKD_zps20a54767.jpg
The oil filler tube is incorrectly molded. Looks like a good place to start. I'll grind off the filler cap, cut the valve cover off of the cylinder head, cut the carbs off the intake manifold and do some modifications. Stay tuned.

mikevillena
12-18-2012, 07:16 AM
Cobbled up the stock Tamiya Engine for the before shot:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild003_zps5ef503c4.jpg
Deconstruction begins:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild004_zps3ca4b2c1.jpg
So rusty with my jeweler's saw that I promptly broke a blade. Eventually got the hang of it again.

Separated the valve cover from the head then carefully shaved off the stock molded oil fill cap followed by lots of wet sanding:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild005_zps8c92794d.jpg

Added missing ribs and the new oil fill boss. Also experimented with my aluminum foil trick to replicate the "ABARTH" raised letters on the valve cover:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild006_zps1848506a.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild007_zps9e168a81.jpg

Added more details to the valve cover and installed the salvaged oil fill cap in it's new location:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild009_zps8fe8f5bc.jpg
I think I might have to re-do the ABARTH lettering because it turned out somewhat faint.

crawl330h
12-18-2012, 08:59 AM
I'm going to watch this build, from what I've seen so far its going to be great.

A little off topic - what exactly is the kitchen wrap trick for painting inside Lexan bodies?

alan
12-18-2012, 12:52 PM
This build is giving me smiles already.:cool:

mikevillena
12-18-2012, 02:24 PM
I'm going to watch this build, from what I've seen so far its going to be great.

A little off topic - what exactly is the kitchen wrap trick for painting inside Lexan bodies?

For the "kitchen wrap trick", I lay the piece of cling wrap onto whatever design or art work that I will be hand painting onto the printed source image then I trace the outlines with a black fine point Sharpie. Then I peel the cling wrap off and slap it onto the outside of the body shell. I can now clearly see the outlines that I've traced from the inside and can proceed to hand paint. Essentially, just transferring the image from printout to body shell. Hope it helps.

mikevillena
12-18-2012, 02:25 PM
This build is giving me smiles already.:cool:

Thanks alan! Hope I can regain some of my lost skills quickly

mikevillena
12-18-2012, 02:31 PM
There wasn't much left of the original head when I got done cutting:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild010_zps27b4e367.jpg
Looks like I will have to reconstruct a lot of structures. Good thing I had enough reference photos to work from.

Well, I've managed to be reasonably accurate with building the head:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild011_zps5eee2065.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild012_zps28afc399.jpg
Some sanding and putty then I'll set this aside and tackle the engine block and sump next.

crawl330h
12-18-2012, 02:40 PM
For the "kitchen wrap trick", I lay the piece of cling wrap onto whatever design or art work that I will be hand painting onto the printed source image then I trace the outlines with a black fine point Sharpie. Then I peel the cling wrap off and slap it onto the outside of the body shell. I can now clearly see the outlines that I've traced from the inside and can proceed to hand paint. Essentially, just transferring the image from printout to body shell. Hope it helps.

It does, thanks! I'll have to try it

mikevillena
12-19-2012, 07:22 AM
Well, started the block last night:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild013_zps557bf804.jpg
Got a little further along before I to bed. However, I started having some doubts this morning. I had a hunch that Tamiya did some monkey business with the engine to get it to fit inside the relatively short engine bay (dictated by the rc car chassis). The entire block looks out of proportion (too short). I compared it to other engines on hand:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild015_zpsa5140c4d.jpg
(Perhaps the Porsche Type 930 would be apples to orange because it's in 1/8th scale)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild014_zps173e23f8.jpg
The Mini is the same scale as the Abarth (1/9.5 scale)
Well, because I totally lack any drawings or dimensions of the engine block and I have just a few useful photos, I'll have to be very creative in "interpretation".
Decided to soldier on:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild017_zps3ce4d58d.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild016_zpsa45e211f.jpg

crawl330h
12-19-2012, 07:58 AM
I saw the engine compartment in that mini and my jaw hit the floor. Please excuse me while I pick it up

mikevillena
12-19-2012, 08:11 AM
I saw the engine compartment in that mini and my jaw hit the floor. Please excuse me while I pick it up
Ah, glad you like my Mini. It's an ancient build that was never finished because the M02 chassis that it was built around is not legal for TCS anymore. Actually, it was dropped by TCS while I was still building it. Oh well. Here's another shot of the engine compartment:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Mini%20Cooper/MiniCooperR046.jpg

Hope to do a far better and cleaner build with the Abarth.

crawl330h
12-19-2012, 10:14 AM
That's quite a bit of detail, I look forward to the current build

alan
12-19-2012, 12:49 PM
Hey Mike. That Mini's legal here at Armature Alley.;) (if you're ever out west)

And I'm glad you're soldiering on with the Abarth; If the Tamiya judges have an issue with a 0.5 scale discrepancy, then they should probably fire all their engineers.

mikevillena
12-19-2012, 01:03 PM
Thanks Alan! Too bad I'm a million miles away otherwise I'd be knocking on your door. Armature Alley is really cool. Funny thing about the TCS is that I have to run the chassis that the kit came with. Fiat Abarth 1000 TCR on an M05 (duh). What, so those guys are terrified of my beat up old M02 chassis? Crazy azz rules....

mikevillena
12-19-2012, 02:32 PM
Details added to the engine block sides:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild018_zps0cd8df93.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild019_zps2557eea5.jpg
Also started on the exhaust header. Decided to salvage the kit header and scratchbuild the rest of the exhaust system. Cleaned up the parting lines and filled in the ejector marks:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild020_zps11167c15.jpg

generis
12-19-2012, 04:08 PM
Coming along great, Mike!
I remember staring at your mazda build a long while ago.. it was an inspiration then for sure. This one is looking fantastic so far also! Thanks for sharing your builds!

Peter of A.
12-20-2012, 01:08 PM
Ho, thanks god, he is still alive, and he is back !
I'll be seating right there, on the front row !
http://laurajul.dk/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Entertain-yourself-eat-popcorn-3D.gif

mikevillena
12-21-2012, 11:15 AM
Coming along great, Mike!
I remember staring at your mazda build a long while ago.. it was an inspiration then for sure. This one is looking fantastic so far also! Thanks for sharing your builds!
Thank you very much. I'm flattered that you remembered the Miata. Gosh, that was almost ten years ago!


Ho, thanks god, he is still alive, and he is back !
I'll be seating right there, on the front row !
http://laurajul.dk/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Entertain-yourself-eat-popcorn-3D.gif

Than you Peter. Hope I don't disappoint.

mikevillena
12-21-2012, 11:30 AM
Got started on the sump:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild023_zps88670823.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild024_zpsd1667398.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild025_zps63941c01.jpg

Also tried a different approach at replicating the cast "ABARTH" on the head. This time, I simply painted it on using thick filler/primer touch up paint. Took several careful coats:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild026_zpsf207313a.jpg
Looks a little rough so I might scrape it off and start over. However, it's promising.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild027_zps106d332a.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild028_zps2c925749.jpg

The fins on the bottom of the sump is made up of multiple strips of .030 x .030 styrene. I used part of an old gift card to help space everything evenly. I'm trying the Tamiya Extra Thin Cement for the first time and I love it.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild029_zpsdb45e039.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild030_zpsd5990243.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild031_zps79806b8c.jpg

It looks weird, kind of like Frankenstein's bride:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild032_zps7647e6db.jpg

There are some inaccuracies overall but I'll keep going. I think I might go with the scratch built webers.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild_zps50a6630a.jpg

UNGLEWD
12-21-2012, 12:04 PM
Outstanding.... my vote's for the Webers.
Just wanted to say thanks for renewing my passion for the Tamiya cars this month.
I've got my work cut out for me now that I've seen this though!

mikevillena
12-22-2012, 01:34 PM
Outstanding.... my vote's for the Webers.
Just wanted to say thanks for renewing my passion for the Tamiya cars this month.
I've got my work cut out for me now that I've seen this though!

Hey thanks Kev! IMHO, Tamiya's body shells have always been the class leader in detail and scale. I believe they were the first to use split molds for vacuum forming hence they can do undercuts on front and rear facias. I don't know about your work being cut out for you as you are a superb builder/detailer in your own right.

mikevillena
12-22-2012, 01:53 PM
Well, I started on scratchbuilding the carbs. Excuse the fuzzy pictures as my camera is auto focus.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild033_zpsca5fe71c.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild034_zps300758bd.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild035_zpsb3781bf6.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild036_zpsc49b187b.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild037_zpsc97c9cb8.jpg
Not happy with the blanks as they turned out to be undersized. Going to have to start over.

I also looked at the stock Tamiya Webers. I thought they didn't look too bad and with some corrections and additional details they should turn out reasonable. So:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild039_zps260edbcb.jpg
The tiny wing nut started out as a bent piece of solder that was flattened, trimmed and glued in place with a dot of filler/primer paint.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild040_zps7830234b.jpg
Used a single strand from some Dean's silicone lead wire to make the springs for the adjustment screws.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild041_zpsc727e29d.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild042_zps6464dc50.jpg
Heat flared some tubing to make the intake trumpets.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild043_zps2d33285b.jpg
I managed to make the intake screens from some super fine brass mesh that I bought over 20 years ago from a model railroad shop. I knew it was going to come in handy someday!
Waiting for some Metalizer and Alcad Chrome paint that I ordered to arrive so I tackled the intake/adapter manifold:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild044_zps0d0b52b3.jpg

mikevillena
12-22-2012, 04:59 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild045_zpsab14ce0f.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild046_zpsff20a531.jpg
Temporarily tacked on the carbs to check angle. Have to make another plate for the adapter/manifold.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild047_zps48180606.jpg

Headquake
12-22-2012, 05:52 PM
Great detail work on this motor. Very cool.
:beerchug:

alan
12-23-2012, 04:37 AM
Used a single strand from some Dean's silicone lead wire to make the springs for the adjustment screws.


Of course you did.:crazy:

mikevillena
12-23-2012, 05:47 AM
Great detail work on this motor. Very cool.
:beerchug:

Thank you very much Headquake!


Of course you did.:crazy:
Look who's talking! ;)
Wait till you see what I do with some beads and pins (throttle linkage)

Speaking of which, I tacked everything up again to work out ideas for the linkage:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild048_zps4fe5d08e.jpg
Notice the difference between the stock and "improved" Tamiya Webers and what effect a few little bits of plastic added here and there has. I remember reading Shepard Paine's book on detailing and I think he referred to it as creative "gizmology". More about Shepard Paine: http://sheperdpaine.com/
I was also playing around with mixing colours to replicate old cast aluminum. I noticed that in most of my reference photos, the cast aluminum parts have oxidized and had a patina. I tried mixing Metalizer Aluminum, grey primer, flat white and a touch of magneta oil paint. I think with some washes and further weathering, the illusion will be complete.

mikevillena
12-23-2012, 09:17 AM
Drilling through the carb for the butterfly shaft
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild049_zpsaf48bffa.jpg
Inserted a length of .030 dia styrene rod
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild050_zpsc9cd2862.jpg
Fabricating one of the bell cranks
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild051_zps748df6a5.jpg
For the working ends of the linkage turnbuckles, I glued a tiny plastic bead from my local arts and craft store onto a length of .030 dia. rod using a drop of thick CA. The joint cured strong so it might actually work.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild052_zps8c1319ce.jpg
Proof of concept. The ball end looks crude so I will redo it.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild053_zpsf601a238.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild054_zpse13b2a2d.jpg
I think it's entirely possible to have a working throttle linkage.

mikevillena
12-23-2012, 09:36 AM
Quick check of relative scale appearance and clearances:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild055_zpscf9df769.jpg
The engine will be sitting a little lower with the sump fins peeking out from under the rear valance. Looks good so far.

Ikaros
12-23-2012, 09:56 AM
Now, what i didn't read in previous messages, do the carburators actually work?




No kidding, awesome stuff you're showing over here! :bowdown:

mikevillena
12-23-2012, 10:25 AM
Now, what i didn't read in previous messages, do the carburators actually work?




No kidding, awesome stuff you're showing over here! :bowdown:

Hey and thanks Ikaros. No, the re-worked Tamiya carbs don't work. However, the butterflies open and close on the scratchbuilt one. Excuse the crude quality. I really need to improve the crispness of the edges.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild057_zpsb8b04813.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild056_zpsda9e2388.jpg

imthatguy
12-23-2012, 02:17 PM
You're excused. ;)

Great work Mike, tons of inspiration here.

mikevillena
12-23-2012, 06:46 PM
You're excused. ;)

Great work Mike, tons of inspiration here.
Just saw your project for the first time. Here I am with my dinky little styrene crap while you are scratch building the damned entire truck. Excuse me while I throw everything in the garbage and take up knitting... But seriously, you have far better building skills than I have and I'm sure the entire board agrees with me on this one. :rock:

mikevillena
12-23-2012, 06:52 PM
Oh well, back to my dinky styrene crap.....

Proof of concept (take 2)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild058_zps014b08f7.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild059_zpsacfe16b1.jpg
With a better idea on how to tackle the throttle linkage I can move on to modifying the other Tamiya carb. I used a lump of polymer clay to help hold the carb while I drilled:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild060_zps894cfaaa.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild061_zpsfa9d5bb5.jpg
Tacked everything back up again to check clearances between the carbs:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild062_zpse8842ef8.jpg

crawl330h
12-23-2012, 07:09 PM
This is unbelievable, truly incredible

mikevillena
12-23-2012, 11:52 PM
This is unbelievable, truly incredible
Thank you for the very kind compliment but there are other builds here that are far better and more challenging :o

mikevillena
12-23-2012, 11:57 PM
Decided to start work on the exhaust system. I think I'll go with the factory race team's configuration.
Steam bent some tubing using my trusty tea kettle. I actually managed to not burn my fingers this time :laughing:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild063_zps6342af44.jpg

Tacked everything up to check alignment:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild064_zps9c5081a5.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild065_zps0d3c7a84.jpg
I will deviate from the standard flat white finish and go with polished stainless steel with the intention that the car will be a restored "factory" historic race car. After some more prep work and weld modeling, the exhaust system will be sprayed with Metalizer Stainless, buffed and then heat stained.

imthatguy
12-24-2012, 08:01 AM
I think you mentioned it before Mike, but when you steam bend tubing, do you put a solid piece inside to stave off decompression of the tube? I'm also very interested in seeing your technique for styrene welds.

mikevillena
12-24-2012, 08:40 AM
I think you mentioned it before Mike, but when you steam bend tubing, do you put a solid piece inside to stave off decompression of the tube? I'm also very interested in seeing your technique for styrene welds.
Hi. Yes, with tubing (hollow) you need to insert smaller diameter tubing. Depending on overall tubing diameter and bend radii, you can minimize collapse or kink. It is very tricky and requires a bit of practice.

My super duper hi tech GETHO steamer/bender:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild069_zpseeb4244f.jpg
I cobbled it up in a hurry so it looks like crap and I still manage to steam my fingers a little. No doubt I could have enlarged the whistle hole on the cap but since I'm the most absent minded person in the world, I need to be "informed" when the water is hot enough for the french press. Can't live without coffee which probably explains the wonky cuts and painted lines. But I digress :laughing:
Anyway, the trick is to patiently hold and constantly rotate the bend area in the focused steam while gently applying bending pressure. You will know when the plastic gets soft. Also keep the bend area in the focused steam as you are making the bend. If you make a mistake, simply re-steam it straight, let it cool off and start over. But for smaller diameters, I strongly recommend using rod (solid) as it is a ton easier. And rod is simply like butter when steamed. For the Abarth's exhaust, I used a longer piece of sacrificial inner tubing. After things cooled off, I gripped the protruding end and gently pulled it out so as to have a totally hollow bent pipe:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild068_zps15bd9dc6.jpg
As to my weld technique, I'm still trying to figure out the best way. This time, I used the grey scratch filler and primer:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild066_zps2fbc107c.jpg
I kept dabbing the filler primer all the way around the "joint" until I built up enough thickness. Then when the filler primer forms a skin, I gently shaped it with the tip of a stainless steel palette painting knife. This really takes a lot of practice and to be honest, it still looks a little crude:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild067_zps10f055bc.jpg
I might try some putty next time. I'll keep experimenting and I'll let you guys know. Hope this helps.

Oh, and Merry Christmas to everyone. Hope Santa gets you that:
Ferrari
Date with Keira Knightly
Every Tamiya Kit that is out of production
etc........

UNGLEWD
12-24-2012, 11:51 AM
Working linkage... well I'm beside myself, really something to stare at and even better...thanks for sharing some of your many tips and tricks with us!

alan
12-24-2012, 02:45 PM
"Metalizer Stainless, buffed and then heat stained." :blink: There's stuff going on here that I've never even heard of!

mikevillena
12-24-2012, 03:14 PM
Thanks Kev. There's really nothing special, just a little bit of creative thinking especially the glass bead. And I seriously need to improve my building and painting skills as everything looks crude in those closeups. :blink:

mikevillena
12-24-2012, 03:34 PM
"Metalizer Stainless, buffed and then heat stained." :blink: There's stuff going on here that I've never even heard of!

Alan, Metalizer paint has been around for decades now. It was initially designed to replicate bare or natural metal finishes on military and commercial aircraft. Testor's bought them out a few years ago and they are now marketed under the Model Master Line. http://www.testors.com/category/599394/Bottle_Paints
The paint is lacquer based and intended for airbrush use (but I sometimes brush it on small areas). Some of the shades are buffing while others are non buffing. With buffing, you wait for a few minutes after application and then using q-tips or facial tissue you rub or buff out the paint. With care you can get some spectacular results. A bit of advice though, with Evergreen styrene you need to wet sand and polish the bare plastic first before you apply the Metalizer. This is because there is noticable surface texture on the raw styrene (sheet or tubing). I found out the hard way!
As to heat stained, bare metal exhausts tend to blue or stain especially in around bends because of the intense heat and it also occurs around welds. My two stroke Aprilia RS's expansion chamber also has it. That is what I will try to replicate. Here's what welded heat effects look like on a titanium exhaust:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/ti_header_zps482c1ba5.jpg
I might also try to replicate the springs for the extra wow factor.devil

mikevillena
12-24-2012, 03:38 PM
More work on the exhaust system:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild070_zps0a74e362.jpg

In the midst of adding the welds around the segments, I realized that I should have done this BEFORE glueing everything up.....duh
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild071_zpse224bda0.jpg

Oh well, merry christmas guys!!!:grinch:

mikevillena
12-24-2012, 03:59 PM
Just had to try and figure out how to replicate those springs:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild072_zpseeda29dd.jpg
Crude but promising.

imthatguy
12-24-2012, 06:59 PM
Promising indeed. Merry Christmas Mike!

mikevillena
12-24-2012, 10:54 PM
Promising indeed. Merry Christmas Mike!
Thank you! I hope Santa got you what you want most. :beerchug::welder:

mikevillena
12-24-2012, 11:04 PM
Okay, since I had my senior moment for the day by waiting until I had the exhaust system all glued up to apply the simulated welds on the header I took out my trusty razor saw and de-constructed everything AGAIN :laughing:
Brushed on the Metalizer Titanium and experimented with different colours and techniques:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild073_zps4f7a6486.jpg
Satisfied, I stripped off all the paint and broke out the el cheapo Harbor Freight compressor/airbrush combo for the first time. Airbrushed Titanium overall and aluminum in the weld areas. Waited for a while and then slightly buffed. Slight buffing gives a nice scale sheen to it as opposed to a full reflective finish which would have looked too toy like for my tastes. Then I played around with some artist's acrylic Ultramarine Blue thinned way down (almost a wash) and a combination of acrylic Burnt Sienna and Tamiya Clear Orange:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild074_zps7a18fac3.jpg
I liked the variation in shine, shades of titanium and the "burnt" effect. Glued everything back together:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild075_zpsefb6055b.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild076_zps439f542c.jpg
Onto the retention springs.santa2

mikevillena
12-24-2012, 11:10 PM
Also found a nice video of the real car doing it's thing. Fast and loud little sh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2SEoE1mTOk

mikevillena
12-25-2012, 04:30 AM
I got better results .015 dia solder to make the springs instead of the single strand of conductor wire which was too small as to be practicably invisible.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild077_zps3c8b614e.jpg
A quick step back to check overall uniformity of detail levels:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild078_zps11a424c6.jpg
The carbs will visually benefit from additional painting.

alan
12-25-2012, 02:35 PM
Thanks for the explanation, Mike. And wow factor accomplished! You nailed it on those exhaust colours!:horns:

Great Spa footage too!

generis
12-26-2012, 08:32 AM
Hey, I like that metal ..uh.. work on the exhaust there! Nice stuff!

mikevillena
12-26-2012, 10:53 AM
Thanks for the explanation, Mike. And wow factor accomplished! You nailed it on those exhaust colours!:horns:

Great Spa footage too!


Hey, I like that metal ..uh.. work on the exhaust there! Nice stuff!

Thanks guys. I opted to go subtle on the effects because it's very easy to end up looking like the ubiquitous "fart can". This IMHO looks really fake:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Exhaust_Systems_Titanium_LRG_zps6fb0b9b4.jpg

mikevillena
12-26-2012, 11:06 AM
The engine is beginning to get rather heavy with the sump almost solid styrene and the extra weight will make for installation challenges later. So I got busy with my ball cutter bit. Much better:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild079_zps14a5af34.jpg
Also decided to make additional corrections (inevitable since I'm having to eyeball everything from a few photos) and add more details.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild083_zpsc3d4b72f.jpg
Scrapped off the old timing cover and built a better one:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild081_zps3afa70d2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild084_zps0b527eb9.jpg
Painted and installed the valve cover so that I can finalize the throttle linkage since there is a bellcrank pivot/cable stop plate that sits on top of it:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild086_zps6a3d484f.jpg
Also started the distributor cap:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild085_zps62c5cd80.jpg

alan
12-26-2012, 01:37 PM
Kids wake up to cartoons; Adults wake up to morning radio; I wake up to Mikevillena!:cool:

mikevillena
12-27-2012, 02:39 AM
Kids wake up to cartoons; Adults wake up to morning radio; I wake up to Mikevillena!:cool:
LOL.....Alan, you are too easily amused my friend :laughing:
Truth be told, my mornings look like this:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/TVRallnightsession.jpg

mikevillena
12-27-2012, 02:44 AM
I'm really enjoying this build and there's something zen like about fabricating tiny parts that easily fly off the tweezers and get lost in the carpeting :sh1t: Oh, well they don't call it zen for nothing.

Anyway, one of the most useful materials I've found is the tin that's used in wine bottles (used to be lead). Came in handy while making the details for the distributor:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild087_zps6cc4d3e2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild088_zpsb134f221.jpg
A quick check for fit:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild089_zps4617e692.jpg

Magic2002
12-28-2012, 04:37 AM
.................. dunno what to say........ awesome!!

Ikaros
12-28-2012, 07:14 AM
WOW, absolutely marvelelous. I won't asked this time if the rotor is actually turning, cause before we realise you've made it

SAL45
12-28-2012, 12:21 PM
Wow Mike! Simply amazing! I have missed your builds! Just like others I have followed all your builds. I'm hoping you do an Updated Mini Cooper S (new body) for a build!

mikevillena
12-28-2012, 04:12 PM
.................. dunno what to say........ awesome!!

Thanks Magic!


WOW, absolutely marvelelous. I won't asked this time if the rotor is actually turning, cause before we realise you've made it
Thanks Ikaros. Not sure about the rotor that you are referring to. I'm trying to keep this build simple since the project velocity needs to be high to make the deadline for the TCS race in March so nothing is going to be functional engine wise.


Wow Mike! Simply amazing! I have missed your builds! Just like others I have followed all your builds. I'm hoping you do an Updated Mini Cooper S (new body) for a build!
Thanks SAL! I'm afraid I have a ton of projects that were put on hold four or so years ago and I need to finish those before I can even think about starting a new one.

mikevillena
12-28-2012, 04:20 PM
Started on the pulleys:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild091_zps5397c134.jpg
And the alternator:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild092_zps6bd03870.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild093_zps95bc2bd1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild094_zpsfdcca5f7.jpg
Finally got my shipment of Alclad II (styrene) Chrome:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild090_zps3acb0948.jpg
Base coat of gloss black enamel on the intake trumpets. Allowed to dry overnight:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild095_zpsbc03b3f6.jpg
Trumpets finished and installed. Will hold off installing the brass screens for now.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild096_zps55602c48.jpg
Started fabricating the main linkage plate. At this point I realize that it will be too fragile since it's only styrene so I'm afraid it won't be functional. I will however do my best to make it "look functional":
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild097_zps817c9b10.jpg

alan
12-28-2012, 05:28 PM
Almost baffling.:huh:

mikevillena
12-29-2012, 07:38 AM
Almost baffling.:huh:
Nah...you guys can and DO build better and cleaner. But thanks for the kind compliment :beerchug:

mikevillena
12-29-2012, 07:45 AM
More fiddly little bits:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild098_zps724a568e.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild099_zpsb3c25545.jpg
I've always used solder wire when modelling scale wires, etc. but I tried something different this time. Because of the small size, I had a lot of trouble with fabricating the bell crank out of styrene. So I flattened a small piece of round solder wire and had at it with my drill bit and files. Surprisingly, the solder was far more workable than styrene:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild100_zpsac9eab4f.jpg
Also fabricated the linkage using solder wire. The ends were flattened, shaped with a file and drilled. At this point the whole linkage system does work although the throw is very minimal:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild101_zpsc3153164.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild102_zpsc04c79d0.jpg

Little Guy
12-29-2012, 09:08 AM
Hi Mike. Long time viewer, first time poster.

I'm not going to lie- I think you are by far one of the most meticulous scale builders this forum has and probably will ever see. I've never used styrene, like, ever-- and I'm going to try my own hand at it in the future. Your work is incredibly solid, and my hat is permanently off in your topics. You have me re-evaluating my hand at what is scale-- which is a good thing, actually. Thanks for the inspiration, and keep up the good work dropping our jaws.

-Justin.

mikevillena
12-29-2012, 06:27 PM
[QUOTE=Little Guy;171790]Hi Mike. Long time viewer, first time poster.

I'm not going to lie- I think you are by far one of the most meticulous scale builders this forum has and probably will ever see. I've never used styrene, like, ever-- and I'm going to try my own hand at it in the future. Your work is incredibly solid, and my hat is permanently off in your topics. You have me re-evaluating my hand at what is scale-- which is a good thing, actually. Thanks for the inspiration, and keep up the good work dropping our jaws.

Hi and thank you for your extremely kind and generous compliment but such high praise belongs to other better skilled builders in this forum. However, I'm glad that you are going to try hour hand at working with styrene as it is very versatile and easy to work with. I believe Kev has a couple of very good and informative stickies on working with styrene. Thanks again! :o

mikevillena
12-29-2012, 06:43 PM
Started fabricating the ignition wires. Tried different materials but I finally settled on some Dean's silver solder. Pre-shaping plug wire no.1:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild103_zps3c77e124.jpg
The solder wire ends were inserted into pieces of styrene tubing (one short and one slightly longer). The taper was built up with medium CA with kicker and thick filler/primer paint:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild104_zps85ab2f48.jpg
Boot ends were painted with de-canted automotive semi-gloss black trim paint (lacquer) and the rest with flat red enamel thinned with V&PM Naptha. Can't forget to add the white lettering:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild107_zpsdda4cf78.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild108_zpsd3e97702.jpg
Although the solder wire is relatively soft and pliable it was tricky to get it to lay properly without kinks and to look natural. Obviously, one end goes into a hole drilled into the cylinder head and the other into the distributor cap's enlarged hollow tube:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild109_zps310dd9b0.jpg
Took a break and went to Hobby Lobby to get some modelling supplies and I wandered over to the necklace beading section. Found some really great stuff to use. The S'getti String is actually round hollow tubing that is very supple and will certainly come in useful. At 1.99 for 50 yards it's an absolute bargain. The paint brushes were cheap at 4.99 for 6 sables.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild105_zpsce5819bb.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild106_zps67c5adbe.jpg
Always look for possible materials everywhere. :rock:

mikevillena
12-29-2012, 09:06 PM
With the plug wires in place, I tacked the exhaust system back on to check clearances. It's going to be tight around the pulley.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild110_zpsb7a6a2aa.jpg
Onto the water pump and the vertical oil breather.

alan
12-30-2012, 10:51 AM
How does a judge look at this and think "Naaaa, not enough stock parts"??!?!?!:crazy:

pardonmyn00b
12-30-2012, 10:52 AM
:blink:

UNGLEWD
12-30-2012, 10:53 AM
:blink:

I know right... I'm so excited for 2013!

MidlandRC
12-30-2012, 12:25 PM
:Wow:

He lives and breathes... and he's on SBG. As if this place wasn't already filled with such talent, now Mike is on board. Oh, oh my. I am SO thrilled to see you building again and in the Guild too!



Oh, and in case I went off course... this build is unreal. Your detail work is insane. Please carry on sir.

TheOtherSide
12-30-2012, 12:34 PM
Noob question.... did you airbrush paint your trumpets... or brush paint? I'm going with airbrush. Thx

mikevillena
12-30-2012, 10:38 PM
How does a judge look at this and think "Naaaa, not enough stock parts"??!?!?!:crazy:
Well, I would be in trouble because the only remaining stock parts are the valve cover, headers and carbs.


:blink:


I know right... I'm so excited for 2013!


:Wow:

He lives and breathes... and he's on SBG. As if this place wasn't already filled with such talent, now Mike is on board. Oh, oh my. I am SO thrilled to see you building again and in the Guild too!
Oh, and in case I went off course... this build is unreal. Your detail work is insane. Please carry on sir.

C'mon you guys.... you are embarrasing me...:o I am happy, humbled and honored to be in such highly skilled company.


Noob question.... did you airbrush paint your trumpets... or brush paint? I'm going with airbrush. Thx

Thank you very much. I did airbrush the Alclad on over the fully cured gloss black enamel. I did notice that with just a light coat of the Alclad, I was able to get a beautiful "black chrome" colour. Might come in handy later.

mikevillena
12-30-2012, 10:50 PM
More updates.
Went back and finished the paint and details on the exhaust system (springs and mounting ears):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild111_zps8ba8abb2.jpg
Also added the "welding discoloration" around the spring mountings:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild112_zps1dcbde62.jpg
Water pump and pulley in progress:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild113_zps94521d91.jpg
Water pump installed:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild114_zpsce5bf6cf.jpg
Belt in progress. Made the "teeth" using pieces of .030 x .030 styrene:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild115_zpsb0b15172.jpg
What a royal pain in the a**:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild116_zpsad1ff01f.jpg
Got the belt and pulley painted up. Had another "duh" moment while installing the belt......the pitch wasn't enough so the teeth did not engage fully while going around the pulley. Too late for this build but something for me to consider next time:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild117_zpsaffb83c2.jpg
Another proof that I am all too human...the alternator is mounted a little wonky:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild118_zpsb5be7969.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild119_zps543027f8.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild120_zpsc25a6d43.jpg
Some additional paint and touch ups along with more black washes are needed. Incidentally, I initially used flat black enamel thinned with massive amounts of Naptha but the wash looked terrible as the Metalizer paint is fragile. I switched to black artist's acrylic paint thinned with water and it appears to be working a little better.

crawl330h
12-31-2012, 07:28 AM
The details on this engine are just nuts, I can't wait to see what the rest of the build will be like

Crankbait
12-31-2012, 08:48 AM
Amazing build!
I'm super impressed with your patience!
Those belt teeth had to be extremely tedious!

mikevillena
12-31-2012, 11:49 AM
The details on this engine are just nuts, I can't wait to see what the rest of the build will be like
Thank you. I hope to be able to maintain the same level throughout (gulp! Talk about painting oneself in a corner)


Amazing build!
I'm super impressed with your patience!
Those belt teeth had to be extremely tedious!
Thank you. Yep, they were absolutely tedious and unfortunately I'm not very happy with them at the moment. I might strip everything and try again if I get a chance later in the build.

mikevillena
12-31-2012, 11:55 AM
Trying to use the S'getti craft lace to fabricate the oil lines. I also flattened lengths of .015 solder to make the hose clamps:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild121_zpsda07a703.jpg
Fabricating the oil breather assembly:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild122_zps0cfe34c7.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild123_zps6f0b1543.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild124_zpsc69ea4dc.jpg
Oil breather installed and some more plumbing in place:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild125_zpsb406efaf.jpg
Trying to figure out how to replicate the fuel banjo and line:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild126_zpsbf2f89fc.jpg
Used a length of CA micro tubing for the line.
"Hey Luigi, you forgotta da drain plug again!!!" :laughing:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild127_zps0746b608.jpg
Have a Happy New Year guys!!!:beerchug:

UNGLEWD
12-31-2012, 02:01 PM
A higher education... great tip on the solder MV!

imthatguy
12-31-2012, 02:23 PM
Chiming in from Las Vegas to say brilliant work Mike! Inspires me to take things to the next level on the FJ60.

mikevillena
12-31-2012, 02:59 PM
A higher education... great tip on the solder MV!
Thanks Kev! The flattening technique also works for styrene rod as well. You can make linkage ends on both styrene and soft solder by flattening the tips, drilling a hole and shaping with a file:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild128_zpsead31535.jpg
I made the terminal lugs on the ignition coil of my mini using the same technique:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Mini%20Cooper/MiniCooperM020.jpg


Chiming in from Las Vegas to say brilliant work Mike! Inspires me to take things to the next level on the FJ60.
Thank you very much. I say GO FOR IT!!! I invariably google for images by specifying "engine", "restoration" or "rebuild". Part of the fun in any project is the research phase.
https://www.google.com/search?q=fj60+engine+rebuild&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nRXiUKS3BsLbrAHGvID4Bg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1360&bih=610
https://www.google.com/search?q=toyota+3fe+engine&hl=en&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=whziUL3CC8j9qAGG9oGgCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1360&bih=610
Not sure if there is a 1/24th scale kit available but that would be a great help because you can take measurements from the kit engine and simply scale up. I was lucky enough to have acquired both the 1/24th scale kit and the body shell for both my upcoming Alfa projects. Also, the 155 will be built on the discontinued F103 GT chassis which will give me a ton of room for extensive engine bay and interior detailing:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild129_zps51f2a123.jpg

mikevillena
01-01-2013, 10:31 AM
Happy New Year to all!!!

Still trying to refine the fuel system and banjo connections. Using a bent pin that has been heated over a flame and then pushed into a piece of styrene tube:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild130_zpsbbc2dcd3.jpg
After trimming off the ends and clean up with a file:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild131_zps33413af5.jpg
Also trying a technique in replicating fuel in a clear tube. Used some diluted Tamiya Clear Orange:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild133_zpsaa58e872.jpg
T junction fitting:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild134_zpsb8a1ba46.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild135_zps0cb6a6ae.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild136_zpsf2b86c6d.jpg
The effect is pretty convincing even though at this magnification everything looks rough.
I also scrounged around for radiator/coolant hoses. Nearest I could find was this cheapo necklace with a quasi rubber cord. I will cut off the metal ends and try it.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild132_zps801a5828.jpg

Ikaros
01-01-2013, 10:46 AM
Trully Unbelievable what your showing us Mike! Each time you log on to this forum, and tick ''new post'' you think: Yeah he posted something new ![[[

Due to the exitement, I totally forget to post that I'm seriously look forward to the build of the Alfa 155. Always have thought they was one of the sickest DTM racecars ever!

MidlandRC
01-01-2013, 10:49 AM
I need a bigger notebook to jot down all these tips and tricks. Love the diluted orange. Very convincing effect.

crawl330h
01-01-2013, 03:30 PM
The fuel lines look very cool with the orange in them

mikevillena
01-02-2013, 12:04 AM
Trully Unbelievable what your showing us Mike! Each time you log on to this forum, and tick ''new post'' you think: Yeah he posted something new ![[[

Due to the exitement, I totally forget to post that I'm seriously look forward to the build of the Alfa 155. Always have thought they was one of the sickest DTM racecars ever!
Thanks Ikaros. Well, it might not get started until late spring because I still have to complete the old AE86 build. And I also have a ton of other projects in the closet not to mention my Cup Racer 510 for which I have also ordered a Lancia Stratos and two Porsche bodyshells with one destined to be extensively converted to the 935/78 "Moby Dick". There's no end.....ARGH!!


I need a bigger notebook to jot down all these tips and tricks. Love the diluted orange. Very convincing effect. Thank you. But these aren't really tricks or secrets. Just some creative thinking and I'm sure someone has already come up with it.


The fuel lines look very cool with the orange in them
Thank you. I chose the orange thinking it was reasonably close to the actual color of racing av gas.

mikevillena
01-02-2013, 12:10 AM
Well, the belt was really bothering me so I decided to strip everything off and have another go at it. This time I built the belt around the pulleys which I have detached and tacked onto a flat piece of styrene to make things easier.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild143_zps2753098d.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild144_zpsfb326587.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild146_zpsdc36accc.jpg
A slightly better outcome although it was extremely fragile and broke in several places because the glue and paint caused the .010 thick styrene strip to become very brittle:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild147_zps70dbfa91.jpg
I also made more corrections to the carbs and fuel lines and added some missing bolts and spring loaded adjustment screws.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild148_zpsbbe104c2.jpg
Still having issues with my black wash but I need to move on. With the engine almost finished I can finally start on the bodyshell. I recently stopped by my local Harbor Freight and picked up some badly needed tools. I also picked up a new contour gauge. I bought one a long time ago that was made of steel. The pins were very stiff and scratched the lexan whenever I tried to use it. This one is plastic, is a lot easier to use and will come in handy in scratchbuilding bodyshell structures:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild145_zps835c7328.jpg

mikevillena
01-02-2013, 02:05 AM
Also forgot another project that is screaming for my attention:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild149_zpse5063420.jpg

alan
01-02-2013, 02:24 AM
Wow, Mike! Your ingenuity actually catches me off guard. I seriously just sit here with wide open eyes and laugh. Thank you for being so willing and good at sharing your ideas and techniques. You're truly inspiring.

mikevillena
01-02-2013, 06:18 AM
Thank you very much Alan.....but I'm sure that given the opportunity anyone can easily come up with the same ideas. It's just a matter of being creative and always asking yourself "how can I use that in my project?" whenever you look at items at the store. It can be just about anywhere; fabric store (hint:think carbon fiber), craft store, hardware store and even at good old Wal-Mart where I found a nice pair of curved scissors and a superb pair of tweezers for really cheap. The contour gauge is actually used by carpenters when they work with complex crown moldings. For those who have never used one:
(Sorry, but it's hard to hold it in place while I was snapping the pic)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild150_zps323bba7b.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild151_zpsda7267a9.jpg
It is a god send when fabricating bulkheads. :beerchug:

EDIT: ooops...forgot the link:
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-contour-gauge-907.html
Best 5 bucks you will ever spend

pardonmyn00b
01-02-2013, 07:10 AM
Thanks for the info in the contour gauge. I knew they existed and I wanted one, but couldn't think of the name to find it. Old age I reckon.

imthatguy
01-02-2013, 10:03 AM
Thanks for the info in the contour gauge. I knew they existed and I wanted one, but couldn't think of the name to find it. Old age I reckon.

I've got an extra metal-toothed one if you want it mister.

SAL45
01-02-2013, 01:59 PM
That 'fuel in the tube' trick looks awesome! Thanks for posting the tips on materials you are using and where you got them. Really helps the ageing creative mind! Awesome job as usual! Look forward to the next updates!

MidlandRC
01-02-2013, 02:02 PM
I'm just awestruck Mike... truly. So much detail in your work, it's astounding. Everything, even the smallest of pieces, gets acknowledged and given proper attention. Unreal.

mikevillena
01-02-2013, 08:39 PM
Thanks for the info in the contour gauge. I knew they existed and I wanted one, but couldn't think of the name to find it. Old age I reckon.
Nah, you can't possibly be older than I am. Heck, I knew DIRT when it was still a ROCK.


That 'fuel in the tube' trick looks awesome! Thanks for posting the tips on materials you are using and where you got them. Really helps the ageing creative mind! Awesome job as usual! Look forward to the next updates!
Thanks Sal! I should be starting on the interior one of these days...


I'm just awestruck Mike... truly. So much detail in your work, it's astounding. Everything, even the smallest of pieces, gets acknowledged and given proper attention. Unreal.
Thank you. I guess what I am really doing is creating a model within a model within a model. I try to maintain the same level of detail from the top (engine assembly) all the way down to the individual part (distributor, etc.) so that the whole thing is cohesive. I guess I learned that a long time ago when I took mechanical drafting. I am somewhat at my limit at the moment since I have just the most basic modelling tools and my fanciest tool is a shaft moto-tool (cheap made in China Foredom knock off). I don't even have a miter box!

mikevillena
01-02-2013, 08:53 PM
Didn't get much done today since my arthritis and poor eyesight was bothering me today. I did apply liquid mask on the front and rear turn signal/indicator lenses. While that was drying, I painted and detailed the wheels.
Drilled out the wheels for the valve stems:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild152_zps27e3237d.jpg
After a little bit of wet sanding and a couple of coats of grey primer, I airbrushed the wheels with Metalizer Magnesium. I experimented with raising the air pressure so as to impart a rough cast texture. I then selectively buffed the paint, added the valve stem and balancing weight and a little black wash around the lug nuts. I appropriately sliced a piece of RC lead weight to make the balancing weight:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild155_zpsda92390e.jpg
What a difference paint and a few details make. The wheel on the left is stock.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild156_zps918169f1.jpg
Since I am shooting for a current restored SCCA Historic Race Car, I added a tire sticker to liven things up:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild154_zps0a50a427.jpg
I will eventually print out and apply the Campagnolo "Prodotti Speciali" oval stickers to the wheels.

Wrencher
01-02-2013, 11:20 PM
man the details are just tooo much on this. I am not sure i would have the patience

mikevillena
01-03-2013, 12:47 PM
man the details are just tooo much on this. I am not sure i would have the patience
Thank you Wrencher. It does take a bit of patience but I really enjoy doing this. In the final analysis, it's supposed to be fun 2thumbs

mikevillena
01-03-2013, 01:00 PM
Ive certainly taken the engine details a little bit more beyond the stock set up. Aside from some final plumbing, any additional scratchbuilt components (rear engine mount, catch tank, coolant tank, etc.) will have to wait until I do the test install.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild157_zps11cd5e2e.jpg
Masking bodyshells was never one of my favorite things to do. I used Tamiya's Masking Tape for the first time and I really like it. I also used 3M's Pro Masking Tape (neon green) as it has an aggressive grip and stands up to lacquer. The drawer liner is grippy and I can rest the bodyshell onto it while I mask and it doesn't let the bodyshell slip all over which would make a difficult task even more challenging:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild158_zps0cc4dc82.jpg
Five coats of Tamiya PS paints. Two of Corsa Grey, Two of White and a final overall shot of Corsa. I allowed each coat to flash before the next coat. I don't force the drying because I want the previous layer to still be tacky when I apply the next coat. That way, all of the coats melt into each other forming a stronger film which is crucial because I will be glueing details directly onto the paint film and not the lexan. I've tried different types and brands but only Tamiya PS was strong enough not to peel or lift:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild159_zps016a7715.jpg
I also dug up and cobbled up a spare M02 short chassis to compare with the new M05 that I'm building. Looks like it's a bit longer but I'm hoping that I won't have to trim the engine to make it fit:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild160_zps65f0700b.jpg

alan
01-03-2013, 02:04 PM
Great info, Mike! I'll def be using a drawer mat for my next bodywork.

Is it possible to trim some chassis instead of the engine if need be?

mikevillena
01-03-2013, 02:51 PM
Great info, Mike! I'll def be using a drawer mat for my next bodywork.

Is it possible to trim some chassis instead of the engine if need be?
Hi Alan. Nope, I can't do any modifications whatsoever on the chassis. TCS dictates that the chassis must be built precisely as per instruction sheet. But I really won't mind cutting the engine up because most of the front part will not be visible even if I hinge the rear bonnet. And even less if I am forced to scratchbuild a whale tail if I botch cutting open all of the louvers:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild161_zps1e55e349.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/Fiat-Abarth-1000-lead-fina_zps1528dfe6.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/270519_zps740d7594.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/_P6L7914_zps932b0153.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/fiatabarth10002_zps79607c24.jpg
I deliberately didn't apply masking to the driver's side windows and vent windows because they will be cut out and replaced with window frame pillars and new glass. Started trimming the body shell:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild162_zps7c79b325.jpg

SAL45
01-03-2013, 03:49 PM
Looks great Mike! That paint came out super clean! Aleve....all I'm saying :lol:

Headquake
01-03-2013, 05:03 PM
Your engine looks more real than the real one in the 2nd last reference pic. :beerchug:

mikevillena
01-04-2013, 03:02 PM
Looks great Mike! That paint came out super clean! Aleve....all I'm saying :lol:


Your engine looks more real than the real one in the 2nd last reference pic. :beerchug:

Thanks very much you guys! :o

I am happy with how the paint job turned out because I really and I mean REALLY suck at painting bodyshells. That's why almost all of my previous builds had a single solid colour.

mikevillena
01-04-2013, 03:12 PM
Well, I temporarily assembled the chassis (will have to do it properly once I get my ball bearings from Tower). I am extremely disappointed with how big and clumsy this new chassis is:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild163_zps90d4eceb.jpg
I really hate Tamiya TCS for having dropped my old M02 because it had a TON of detailing room. And with the extremely restrictive rules, I have to go with this even though I thought about just using the M02 and screw them :mad:
Anyway, had to cut out the molded engine bay for the build. Had I gone with the totally stock engine, I would still have had to cut parts of the engine bay away because the shocks really intrude into that space:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild164_zps3dcb1075.jpg
I finally fitted the engine although I've had to butcher the heck out of it. I won't show the nasty pictures of that surgery. The engine is temporarily tacked onto a styrene plate that's screwed onto the chassis and I will have to cut the carbs even more to get the engine to sit correctly. Then I'll have to hog out the exhaust system extensively to get it to fit. God, I really hate this chassis:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild165_zpsf5f96d0c.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild166_zpsc7099b00.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild167_zpsf3052aad.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild168_zpsdc0d793f.jpg

MidlandRC
01-04-2013, 03:23 PM
Makes me want to cry thinking about that motor getting cut up. I don't feel well. I need to sit down...

:eek:

SAL45
01-04-2013, 05:26 PM
Still look great! I'm sure you will have no prob overcoming this setback! You can do it! :bowdown:

UNGLEWD
01-05-2013, 09:23 AM
A shame and I know your pain on the chassis being why I was so excited to get the previous version for my next one. The motor, while a bummer you had to trim was still built 100% before the surgery and that's amazing. I'm very interested to see how you work around this chassis.

mikevillena
01-05-2013, 12:41 PM
Makes me want to cry thinking about that motor getting cut up. I don't feel well. I need to sit down...

:eek:

Oh, that's okay. Gotta do what you gotta do. I will eventually build a full static 1/10th model and it will have complete full boat scratchbuilt details.


Still look great! I'm sure you will have no prob overcoming this setback! You can do it! :bowdown:
Thanks Sal !!


A shame and I know your pain on the chassis being why I was so excited to get the previous version for my next one. The motor, while a shame you had to trim was still built 100% before the surgery and that's amazing. I'm very interested to see how you work around this chassis.
Thanks Kev. Yep the M02 chassis has a ton more room being monoshock and you can understand why it was my favorite build platform. You can also build an intact engine bulkhead and sides whereas I will have to build around those stupid vertical shocks.

mikevillena
01-05-2013, 12:54 PM
I've more or less confirmed how the motor will mount. For now it's glued onto a couple of styrene plates which in turn is tacked onto the rear chassis plate (Part no. A4) using E-6000 adhesive ( a more aggressive version of Amazing Goop). The forward most carb bore the brunt of the grinder and I'm glad I didn't have to sacrifice a pair of scratch built webers.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild169_zps1eebc8ef.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild170_zps98188270.jpg
Most of the cutting is now done as well as initial wet sanding of all cuts with 400 grit paper. I've had to reinforce the front airdam cutout with several coats of Medium CA with kicker to stiffen things up to make sanding easier. I've also cutout the driver's side window and I will build new vent window, roll up glass and all of the chrome plated framing with weather stripping. Unfortunately, the interior will be relatively shallow.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild171_zps947c885d.jpg
I've also decided on a reasonably accurate stance based on reference photos. A bit of disappointment is that I can't do an opening front bonnet because the shock towers sit way up enough that I can disguise them with a long range tank. However, I will have a cutout and I will model the fill cap which will flip similar to my mini
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Mini%20Cooper/MiniCooperP042.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild172_zps853054ff.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild173_zps91b736f8.jpg

alan
01-05-2013, 12:55 PM
...I've had to butcher the heck out of it. I won't show the nasty pictures of that surgery.

Thank you. Like Mr. Midland, I'm also feeling kinda queasy.

Edit;

..But you've done one heck of a job getting it in there without any noticeable changes.:bowdown:

imthatguy
01-05-2013, 05:55 PM
Looking great Mike, the cuts don't look to have done too much damage to the overall look. You do a great job of making these lexan bodies look great. In my heart of hearts, I wish there were more hard body options for our hobby.

mikevillena
01-05-2013, 07:36 PM
Thank you. Like Mr. Midland, I'm also feeling kinda queasy.

Edit;

..But you've done one heck of a job getting it in there without any noticeable changes.:bowdown:
Thanks Alan! Actually, the forward most carb and a section of the engine block got cut so I got lucky. However, I think the engine is still sitting a touch too high or I have the body shell sitting too low. And I have yet to butcher up the exhaust but I will save that for last.


Looking great Mike, the cuts don't look to have done too much damage to the overall look. You do a great job of making these lexan bodies look great. In my heart of hearts, I wish there were more hard body options for our hobby.
The driver's window appears to have been cut out too much but I followed all of my reference photos and it will be built up correctly, I too wish that I had a hard body to work with but I've done enough of these lexan bodies that I feel comfortable with them. The key is getting a very strong paint film and glueing styrene pads onto strategic places onto which the styrene structures are built on.

mikevillena
01-05-2013, 07:44 PM
The real fun starts.
Adding the first of the many styrene pads to the lexan bodyshell. Thin strips of .015 styrene that have been pre-curved to match are glued onto the opening using E-6000
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild174_zps7e3807bb.jpg
Not too worried about "squeeze out" at this point:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild175_zps1dc54230.jpg
After the adhesive cures I take a sanding board (cheap manicure finger boards) and trim the excess styrene and glue on the exposed side of the opening:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild178_zpse611c33e.jpg
Started fabricating the engine bay sides using .020 thk styrene:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild179_zps30294828.jpg
After a bit of test fitting and trimming, the initial pieces did fit properly. But I realized that I could do better with my new contour gauge so:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild180_zps5d8460e9.jpg
Began laying out the rib details based on photos:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild181_zps9613ea39.jpg
Test fitting:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild182_zps7f36f1df.jpg

mikevillena
01-06-2013, 11:57 AM
An idle thought.....too bad I'm not building this around the Cup Car chassis. Looking forward to the Porsches:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild186_zps65b6a5d3.jpg
Anyway, added the rib details:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild187_zpseca9876f.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild188_zps4db4919d.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild189_zpsf22011e5.jpg
Initial test fit. I realized that I made external sheet metal fold too small (they apparently joined the engine bay side walls and the external sheetmetal by folding the lip and spot welding):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild190_zps655a35f1.jpg
Stripped everything and started over. The height is important because the hood prop actually bolts onto that protruding lip:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild191_zps834ae2b8.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild192_zps6ee56c10.jpg
Everything will eventually be painted corsa grey in-situ

UNGLEWD
01-06-2013, 12:14 PM
The other body guys sold me on the contour gauge a while back, this has been the kick in the but I needed to blow the dust off of it again. Mine's metal and I think the plastic version will be better as it probably won't scratch the body as much or take as much pressure to slide the pics.
Was interested to see the adhesive you use.
Have you ever bonded the styrene to raw polycarbonate before paint? I've done this with some success, only downfall for me is that you loose the ability to pull out the traditional show room finish of lexan painted from the back.

mikevillena
01-06-2013, 12:54 PM
The other body guys sold me on the contour gauge a while back, this has been the kick in the but I needed to blow the dust off of it again. Mine's metal and I think the plastic version will be better as it probably won't scratch the body as much or take as much pressure to slide the pics.
Was interested to see the adhesive you use.
Have you ever bonded the styrene to raw polycarbonate before paint? I've done this with some success, only downfall for me is that you loose the ability to pull out the traditional show room finish of lexan painted from the back.

Hi Kev. I bought my General Model N0. 837 Steel Contour Gauge when I started my old Miata build ten years ago but I never used it because the action was extremely stiff. I even pulled out a couple of pins and soaked the whole damned thing in oil in hopes of loosening things up. Works good as a paper weight but it's totally useless for what we do. As an aside, it might work as a comb when applying Zimmerit finish on AFV german tanks though. The el cheapo plastic one from Harbor Freight works like a charm as you can see by the pics. Definitely pick one up.
As to adhesives, I've been using E-6000 for many years now. It is slightly more solvent than regular Shoe Goo and I've seen slight crazing on very thin .010 styrene when used too generously. However, it doesn't seem to affect properly applied Tamiya PS but then again I always apply five coats of paint. I'm not sure how it will work with bare polycarb so you should try it out on some scrap first. I've never had to do external paint and bodywork on a lexan shell but I will eventually get around to it when I tackle the 935/78 conversion. I would imagine that one needs to stiffen the shell so that it doesn't flex too much when wet sanding the externally applied paint. But I think an external high gloss finish is still possible.

mikevillena
01-06-2013, 01:26 PM
Actually, the closest I've ever been to external body work was a hybrid project:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Focus/FordFocus034.jpg
The side structures were made with styrene and the chopped Focus bodyshell simply sat on top.

Anorak
01-06-2013, 02:49 PM
Fantastic skils you've got Mr.Villena! Dont let chassis issues spoil your fun. I like reading about the the technichal bits! Still forever learning

mikevillena
01-07-2013, 04:39 AM
Fantastic skils you've got Mr.Villena! Dont let chassis issues spoil your fun. I like reading about the the technichal bits! Still forever learning

Thanks Anorak. I've had to deal with obtrusive chassis in every TCS Tamiya build I've done before but this is by far the most obnoxious by virtue of the shock mounting. I wish they (Tamiya Championship Series organizers) would give more leeway for best of show entries since those would by their very nature (over weight and fragile) not be competitive race wise. I suppose I'm at fault for constantly pushing the detail envelope and my own personal comfort zone while most are content to slap on a custom paint job, a couple of wipers, lights and a vacuum formed interior not that there's anything wrong with it. I suppose I take a bit of masochistic pleasure in trying to build the best I can within such restrictions not to mention a tremendous amount of satisfaction when I manage to pull it off. Sorry for the rant. Frustration is part of the challenge rofl

mikevillena
01-07-2013, 04:46 AM
While waiting for the adhesive on the side walls to cure fully, I tackled the coolant tank:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild193_zps20535e2a.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild194_zps2d01f6dd.jpg
I might have to scrap this and build a slightly larger one (a constant problem with eyeballing things).
I also started trimming the exhaust system to fit but it is really ugly:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild195_zps12773cde.jpg
Here's the stock configuration:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild196_zpscf8d3087.jpg
I'm now considering building an entire exhaust system around that shock. Oh well, back to the drawing board.:blink:

mikevillena
01-07-2013, 05:41 AM
I will come back to the exhaust system later. Moving forward, I began roughing out the rearmost firewall. Based on reference photos, I believe there are actually two firewalls.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild197_zps2fc19daf.jpg
Tacked it onto the sides so that I can mark out any additional cuts needed to clear the shock tower and shocks:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild198_zpsb30bdde4.jpg
I will also use the Tamiya firewall sticker as a guide when I add the firewall details.

MidlandRC
01-07-2013, 07:22 AM
I don't think the TCS knows how to handle a Mike Villena. :laughing: Pushing the detail envelope... there's an understatement! This build thread continues to thrill. Question: if you covered it already, my apologies. What do you use to "tack" your pieces in place, and is it just to hold temporarily then be removed for more trimming/sanding, or are you just quickly gluing in place to hold until you have a chance to better adhere it (Tenax, Bondene, etc.)? I guess a better question would be, when you tack something on, is it meant to be temporary, and if so, what are you using?

Thanks Mike!

mikevillena
01-07-2013, 07:51 AM
I don't think the TCS knows how to handle a Mike Villena. :laughing: Pushing the detail envelope... there's an understatement! This build thread continues to thrill. Question: if you covered it already, my apologies. What do you use to "tack" your pieces in place, and is it just to hold temporarily then be removed for more trimming/sanding, or are you just quickly gluing in place to hold until you have a chance to better adhere it (Tenax, Bondene, etc.)? I guess a better question would be, when you tack something on, is it meant to be temporary, and if so, what are you using?

Thanks Mike!

Thank you :o Just imagine how the our hardcore crawler/scalers would feel if they entered a hypothetical concourse event and Tamiya told them that they can only use a stock CC01 (not sure what the correct number is cause I'm strictly on-road for now) with absolutely no modifications allowed on the chassis. I think it's time that event organizers, sanctioning organizations and manufacturers rethink their position in light of the fact that the entire industry has been moving towards greater scale realism and accuracy. Look at the superb builds that proliferate this forum in which the builder was free to exercise creativity and problem solving. I'll get off my soap box now.....:o

As to tacking, I generally apply just a drop of liquid cement in a couple of spots. Just enough to hold things in place. I can then slip a knife blade in between and pry the parts apart with minimal to no damage.

SAL45
01-07-2013, 03:09 PM
Still looks good Mike.

mikevillena
01-07-2013, 03:39 PM
Still looks good Mike.
Thanks SAL! Hope your project planning for your build is going smoother than mine.:laughing:

mikevillena
01-07-2013, 03:48 PM
Very slow progress as everything is trial and error.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild199_zpsc091afa5.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild200_zpsa6bae8b7.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild201_zps45786dcb.jpg
Final version of the firewall:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild203_zpsb7fa13ec.jpg
I will be reinforcing the entire engine bay and I need to install the engine onto the fabricated bay as opposed to the running chassis because of all the plumbing required.

mikevillena
01-07-2013, 04:37 PM
Also started fabricating the replacement exhaust system. I inserted a solid rod into the tubing prior to steam bending.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild204_zps5df9d479.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild205_zps962d9936.jpg

SAL45
01-07-2013, 05:32 PM
Thanks SAL! Hope your project planning for your build is going smoother than mine.:laughing:

Not really. I have gathered some pretty good reference photos of a newer Cooper but may be switching to the older one. Also considering buying a HPI Cup Racer.

I think the best part of your builds for me Mike, is not only the level of detail you bring, but how you make the impossible possible!

mikevillena
01-08-2013, 08:44 AM
Not really. I have gathered some pretty good reference photos of a newer Cooper but may be switching to the older one. Also considering buying a HPI Cup Racer.

I think the best part of your builds for me Mike, is not only the level of detail you bring, but how you make the impossible possible!

I could be wrong but isn't the HPI Cup Racer out of production? Their site says that it is not available. I do hope that you can find one though as they are cool.
I don't know about making the impossible possible since there are practical limits that I have to work with. I do thank you for the good intentions though. :o

mikevillena
01-08-2013, 08:50 AM
Managed to fabricate the two problematic pipes:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild207_zpsaf6119d0.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild206_zps79ffec5b.jpg
Both are uncomfortably close to the distributor and ignition wires but I will move forward. Unfortunately I broke a few detail parts while trying to wrestle with the engine so a lot of repairs and touch ups will have to be done later.

UNGLEWD
01-08-2013, 09:08 AM
As my buddy Reza says "no problems, only solutions".
Looking great, man if you could only run a scale shock or at least smaller diameter ones

mikevillena
01-08-2013, 09:12 AM
Thanks Kev. Yep, you nailed it right on the head. As to shocks, I've always wondered why the industry insists on these huge out of scale shocks when the typical carpet track is billiard table smooth. Do we really need that much fluid?

alan
01-08-2013, 11:32 AM
A whole new exhaust! I commend you on your perseverance, Mike.

mikevillena
01-08-2013, 01:57 PM
A whole new exhaust! I commend you on your perseverance, Mike.
Thanks Alan, although you would certainly do the same. To be honest I made a HUGE mistake in this project by not laying the unpainted body shell onto the chassis first. Doing so would have saved me a lot of frustration and wasted time because I would have had a better idea of exactly how much room I had and how to go about things. Never again.

mikevillena
01-08-2013, 02:03 PM
I decided to scrap the second exhaust system and prioritize my steps. First was to stabilize and reinforce the firewall. Then I fabricated the perch for the engine assembly to sit on out of .040 thk styrene and some .250 angle stock. Once the joints have cured fully, I can then install the engine and then I can proceed with fabricating another exhaust system.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild208_zpsd18cc5f7.jpg
I hope the build goes smoother from this point on :hmmm:

mikevillena
01-08-2013, 02:37 PM
Tacked the engine back on to the new perch. A lot of things got bent or broken of which the throttle linkage arm is the most obvious. At least I can now start fabricating another exhaust system:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild209_zps845a15db.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild210_zps2556672e.jpg

mikevillena
01-09-2013, 03:25 AM
Managed to fabricate the individual pipes:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild211_zpsb34d77c0.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild212_zps4460e321.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild213_zps2c91b509.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild214_zps24d08ff4.jpg
Next is the merge section and tailpipe.

Honger
01-09-2013, 11:48 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild214_zps24d08ff4.jpg
Next is the merge section and tailpipe.

You know what I like about this shot? I can't see the shocks anymore... =)

alan
01-09-2013, 12:01 PM
That must be one heck of a fancy shoehorn you have over there, mike. Nicely done!

mikevillena
01-09-2013, 01:35 PM
You know what I like about this shot? I can't see the shocks anymore... =)


That must be one heck of a fancy shoehorn you have over there, mike. Nicely done!
Thanks guys! For some reason, the second and third set of headers still didn't look right so.......

mikevillena
01-09-2013, 01:41 PM
Fourth set. Much better with the shocks less obvious and I will stick with this and move on:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild215_zps81a544bd.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild216_zps18657b17.jpg
Excuse the pun but I am exhausted! :laughing:
But seriously, fabricating these headers have been quite challenging and I am glad to put these behind me. At least I've gained some competency with and have fully validated the steam bending technique.
I can probably fabricate the merge collector from the extra bits:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild217_zps87a8c74b.jpg

MidlandRC
01-09-2013, 02:32 PM
Wow... 4 sets! Your persistence to achieve the best final result with every detail is amazing. Explains why your builds are of the caliber they are.

You said you use tea kettle/coffee pot to steam bend your tubing, no? Reinforced inside with smaller diameter tubing I'm assuming. My apologies for the redundancy Mike, I know you've covered it already... somewhere. :worry:

mikevillena
01-09-2013, 02:58 PM
Wow... 4 sets! Your persistence to achieve the best final result with every detail is amazing. Explains why your builds are of the caliber they are.

You said you use tea kettle/coffee pot to steam bend your tubing, no? Reinforced inside with smaller diameter tubing I'm assuming. My apologies for the redundancy Mike, I know you've covered it already... somewhere. :worry:

Thank you but I suspect it's simply OCD on my part... :laughing:
As to steam bending yes I inserted a solid rod into the tube prior to bending. In this case I inserted a length of .125 dia. rod into the .188 dia. tubing. I constantly make use of the fact that Evergreen styrene tubing and rod come in sizes that telescope. I adjusted the diameter of my ghetto aluminum foil steam spout so as to concentrate the steam in a relatively small area. This gives me a small measure of control and helps minimize the risk of burning my fingers. The key is to be patient and wait for the styrene to soften. Remember that you are actually heating up two separate pieces of styrene. It takes a bit of practice to know or sense when the plastic is soft enough. Also keep the bend area in the steam as you perform the bend. This technique is quite risky and something that I wouldn't suggest to any unsupervised minors.

MidlandRC
01-09-2013, 04:14 PM
Ahhh... solid rod inside as opposed to more tubing. Makes sense as I suppose 2 layers of tubing would/could eventually collapse like a single tube. Thanks for the lesson Mike.

Thanks for the PSA too. I'll be sure to keep my 9 and 6 year old out of my styrene. :D

crawl330h
01-09-2013, 05:16 PM
Coming along greatly, it kind of makes me feel like this

http://i49.tinypic.com/2nbfsxi.jpg

Honger
01-09-2013, 11:06 PM
But seriously, fabricating these headers have been quite challenging and I am glad to put these behind me. At least I've gained some competency with and have fully validated the steam bending technique.


Mike, you need one of these...
10634
My wife just got me one for Christmas... soldering, heat gun, small torch, hot cutter, all-in-one. A very handy little tool that would add to your hobbying fun. Granted, the tea kettle and foil has it beat on price, but it's actually not priced to badly. Problem is it isn't available in the US, so you'll have to source it from UK (or similar) somehow.

More info here (http://www.dremeleurope.com/gb/en/ocs/category/6124/dremel®-versatip™;jsessionid=2EC8986066FE1786E2A7EB6A96E6F 424.sl026-vm).

mikevillena
01-10-2013, 11:30 AM
Ahhh... solid rod inside as opposed to more tubing. Makes sense as I suppose 2 layers of tubing would/could eventually collapse like a single tube. Thanks for the lesson Mike.

Thanks for the PSA too. I'll be sure to keep my 9 and 6 year old out of my styrene. :D

Haha...nothing wrong with the 9 and 6 year old getting into styrene. We need prodigies in this hobby and no doubt they will do just fine under the guidance of their dad's immense skill and creativity. Just keep them away from the moto tool and open flames. :blink:


Coming along greatly, it kind of makes me feel like this

http://i49.tinypic.com/2nbfsxi.jpg

Yes....a chocolate fountain...YUM!!!


Mike, you need one of these...
10634
My wife just got me one for Christmas... soldering, heat gun, small torch, hot cutter, all-in-one. A very handy little tool that would add to your hobbying fun. Granted, the tea kettle and foil has it beat on price, but it's actually not priced to badly. Problem is it isn't available in the US, so you'll have to source it from UK (or similar) somehow.

More info here (http://www.dremeleurope.com/gb/en/ocs/category/6124/dremel®-versatip™;jsessionid=2EC8986066FE1786E2A7EB6A96E6F 424.sl026-vm).

That looks like a really nice tool to have. Please let us know how well it works with styrene. I did find a discussion thread about it on a Dremel forum:
http://messageboard.dremel.com/Topic2693-28-1.aspx

Dukk
01-10-2013, 11:40 AM
The Dremel model may not be available over here but there are multiple other options for a butane soldering iron/torch with a similar attachment starting from about $50

mikevillena
01-10-2013, 11:43 AM
I apologize for the glacial progress on this build.
Added the weld details on the pipes and painted them Metalizer Titanium with Stainless Steel stripes :
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild219_zps177fe7f7.jpg
Fabricated the merge collector and the tailpipe. The new system is much beefier than the old one:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild220_zps670142a6.jpg
A quick test fit to check clearances:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild221_zps773b4bda.jpg
Fabricating the individual springs for the exhaust system as well as making much needed repairs on the engine:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild222_zpsdbbd1c4b.jpg

crawl330h
01-10-2013, 12:57 PM
I didn't realize the size difference until this last shot, wow.

TheOtherSide
01-10-2013, 01:23 PM
Nice work.... lots of time and effort spent!!

I see you have a glass top over your cutting mat. I've been working on a kind of rubber mat and it's time to make a change... what are you using under the glass? And is it just a kitchen glass cutting board on top? Thx in advance!

SAL45
01-10-2013, 04:12 PM
Looks great Mike! With the engine in the bay, you can hardly see those rear shocks anymore! Looks Great!!

mikevillena
01-12-2013, 02:39 PM
I didn't realize the size difference until this last shot, wow.


Nice work.... lots of time and effort spent!!


I see you have a glass top over your cutting mat. I've been working on a kind of rubber mat and it's time to make a change... what are you using under the glass? And is it just a kitchen glass cutting board on top? Thx in advance!

Thank you very much guys. I still think I have OCD... :laughing:
But it's a good thing I'm not a brain surgeon...


I believe it's an el cheapo cutting mat that I bought at my local Hobby Lobby store. It's entirely generic so it cost about 20 bucks. Funny thing about those cutting mats, you can spend upwards of 50 bucks or more on the name brands. I use a glass cutting board bought at my local Wally Mart for 20 bucks. It's tempered and quite thick but I always build on the smooth side to ensure that things are flat and level. Any styrene/glue squeeze outs can easily be scraped off with a single edge razor blade. Same reason that my painting pallette is also glass.



Looks great Mike! With the engine in the bay, you can hardly see those rear shocks anymore! Looks Great!!
Thanks SAL. I hope you are getting ready to start on your Mini Cooper project soon!!!

UNGLEWD
01-12-2013, 02:44 PM
Nice Mike, I actually like the shape of the new one a little better. To me it appears a touch more dramatic at those angles and it covers Tamiya's huge plastic damper well too.

mikevillena
01-12-2013, 02:49 PM
I was thoroughly unhappy with the ham-fisted paintjob that I gave the exhaust system so I stripped everything and reworked it. I filled in some imperfections and shot a couple of coats of barrier primer after which I redefined the simulated welds. I used Metalizer Gun Metal this time to get a slightly darker look. I then gave the weld areas several washes of Tamiya Clear Orange and Maimeri Acrylic French Ultramarine Blue thinned with AV Model Color acrylic gloss Varnish plus water. I decided to do a more subtle effect this time:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild225_zps0b85adcf.jpg
Once dry, I will dry brush some chrome silver over the welds to highlight them.
I also tried AV Model Color Brass and repainted some details on the carbs. I really like this paint series. The pigment load is very good and handles just like any enamel. In the past I didn't have brass colored paint so I simply mixed chrome silver with gold. But the AV Model Color Brass looks much better:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild226_zpsc34cf13c.jpg

mikevillena
01-12-2013, 02:54 PM
Nice Mike, I actually like the shape of the new one a little better. To me it appears a touch more dramatic at those angles and it covers Tamiya's huge plastic damper well too.
Thanks Kev. Although it's not exactly scale and 100 percent correct I'm happy with it it. Good thing it's not a Ferrari V-12 engine! Gosh, I think the Italians have the sexiest exhaust systems. Or the sexiest anything for that matter.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Ferrari_V12_Formula_One_racing_engine_zpse046616c. jpg
Imagine building 6 webers:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/ferrari_v12_engine_zpscc5eedd5.jpg

mikevillena
01-14-2013, 07:03 PM
Finally got back to the workbench again. Because I failed to do the initial planning for the interior tub before I painted the body shell, I had to get creative with a tooth pick and my third hand tool to get an idea of how much room I actually have:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild227_zpse8164637.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild228_zps149fbcf6.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild229_zps47dff218.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild230_zpsf6be0bc2.jpg
Unfortunately, there isn't much room depth wise.
I began by fabricating the rear parcel tray:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild231_zps89af5534.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild233_zps4f006461.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild234_zpsf11a87c6.jpg

crawl330h
01-14-2013, 07:12 PM
That's a handy trick with that tool, I have one laying around here somewhere..

alan
01-14-2013, 08:09 PM
That's a handy trick with that tool, ..

Definitely creative!:biggthumpup:

MidlandRC
01-15-2013, 05:32 AM
Mike I could look at your exhaust work for hours. Definitely inspiring me to stock up on the rods and tubes and start practicing.

SAL45
01-15-2013, 08:33 AM
Looks great Mike. You can get rid of those handles as they serve no purpose. Could give you a little more room. They only protect the servo arm but that's it.

UNGLEWD
01-15-2013, 08:35 AM
Looks great Mike. You can get rid of those handles as they serve no purpose. Could give you a little more room. They only protect the servo arm but that's it.

I thought the chassis needed to stay completely stock didn't it?

mikevillena
01-15-2013, 08:52 AM
Looks great Mike. You can get rid of those handles as they serve no purpose. Could give you a little more room. They only protect the servo arm but that's it.


I thought the chassis needed to stay completely stock didn't it?

Kev, you are correct. The irony is that I'm using an FWD chassis to model a rear engine RWD car...how ridiculous is that!!!

From the TCS Rules page:
" CHASSIS

All chassis platforms must be built per the instruction manual. Altering their basic structure and design is prohibited.
All Tamiya vehicles must use Tamiya parts only. No parts from other manufactures unless specified within this document.
Any Tamiya Hop-Up Option and spare part is allowed and legal as long as it is used in the way it was designed, and installed on the vehicle it was designed for.
It is strictly forbidden to re-engineer or modify the car in any way other than with Tamiya Hop-Ups or kit supplied accessories. (This applies to all classes)
Tamiya springs must retain the factory paint/coating. It is illegal to remove the paint/coating from the springs.
Chassis lightening (by means of milling parts) is prohibited in all TCS classes.
Lightweight screws or adjustable turnbuckles that are made of aluminum, steel or Titanium that are made by other manufactures are allowed. i.e. any screw or turnbuckle is legal. (Be aware! If you win the National title down the road and head over to Japan for the Tamiya World Championships, all screws and turnbuckles must be TAMIYA only!)
The use of thin shims (available at most hobby stores and made available by Tamiya) to space out the slop or play in suspension arms, steering bell-cranks and wheel axles is permitted in all vehicles except in the spec class. Shimming the aforementioned components of the car in a way that alters the geometry of the car or its basic geometry design is not legal.
The use of O-Rings on shock ball ends and camber/steering links is allowed.
Changing the camber-link positions on the car other than the way it was intended is prohibited.
Camber links must be positioned in the mounting holes they were originally drilled for. Drilling new camber link holes is not permitted or legal.
Steering tie-rod linkages, on all chassis platforms, must be attached to the steering knuckle per the instruction manual. Drilling new holes to change “ackerman” is not permitted. Raising and lowering the steering tie-rod with shims, on the steering knuckle itself to change bump steer is not permitted. "

"Concourse
Best of Show/Concourse Rules

A body submitted for concourse consideration must be mounted on a fully assembled operational chassis that is entered in the race event.
The body is not required to run in a heat race. Concourse bodies, if raced, must comply with all other rules and may not enhance the performance of the vehicle.
Concourse winners may be required to demonstrate the vehicles functionality if asked by the judges. Serious contenders for concourse (Best of Show) should be ready to demonstrate the vehicles’ functionality during or after judging if requested.
Dioramas or extra figures are not allowed during concourse judging. Driver figures inside the vehicle are permitted.
Wheels used for concourse/best of show must be Tamiya wheels. Wheels used must match kit supplied size (i.e. no 26mm wheels on a Mini). Appearance Modifications to the wheels is permitted.
You may only enter a best of show or concourse entry in relation to the class that you are entered/racing in. I.E. A racer may not enter F-1 concourse if he/she is only racing in the GT-2 class "

And finally, the Mini Specific rules:
Mini Rules
The Tamiya Mini class is open to all drivers. One of the most popular classes in TCS, the Mini class features low cost, fun and competitive racing.

Recommended Skill Level: Intermediate to Advanced

Legal chassis platforms: M03, M05 and M06 chassis cars that use the 60D size tire or smaller.
Current TAMIYA Mini bodies available for the M03, M05 and M06 are legal.
Any Tamiya MINI body parts set made for the M-03, M-05, M-06 may be used on any chassis platform.
Motor Rules: Tamiya 540-J Johnson motor only, item 53689 (Item 54358, RS-540 Torque-Tuned Motor is not allowed). Motors must not exceed 18,750 RPM. See section 29 and 30 under “General rules” for additional information.
Tamiya internal gears only. Aftermarket idler and spur gears are not legal.
Battery rules: Any Legal TCS battery. See General Rules. Note: LIPO battery packs used in the Mini class must be a rounded profile for use on the M03 and M05 chassis platforms. Grinding the battery slot to fit rectangular batteries is not allowed.
All M-chassis cars must meet a minimum weight of 1250 grams.
Spec Tires: The Mini class must use the Tamiya pre-mounted and glued spec tires manufactured by Tamiya; items 1016, 1028 and 1029. See rule #35 under "General Rules" for specifics. Note: This rule is enforced at every TCS location. "

Thank you for the suggestion though SAL. I'm actually pushing my luck in not using the kit supplied bumpers. I hope no one will catch that when I put her down on the carpet for judging and that all of the additional details will keep everyone too preoccupied to notice. I guess I'm trying to do a poor impersonation of an "illusionist" in that I keep your focus on where I want it and not on the actual trick. In a way, we are all "illusionists", no?

SAL45
01-15-2013, 03:39 PM
Sorry Mike. I forgot about the TCS Rules....carry on! LOL

mikevillena
01-16-2013, 11:20 AM
Sorry Mike. I forgot about the TCS Rules....carry on! LOL

LOL!!! No problem SAL! I can't wait to do a real build with no rules or restrictions whatsoever. The desire has been there for many, many years.

BTW, I am away from the workbench and will be for the short term while the GF is in the hospital. But I hope to update the build soon. Thanks!

alan
01-16-2013, 12:46 PM
As much as we'll miss the daily updates, it's nice to know you've got your priorities straight, Mike. I'm sending good west coast health vibes in your GF's direction.

SAL45
01-16-2013, 03:23 PM
Sorry to hear your GF having health issues. Wish her a speedy recovery!

UNGLEWD
01-16-2013, 03:45 PM
Yeah, hope all is okay.
We'll get you back to building some stuff, for now you can participate through the other builds!

MidlandRC
01-16-2013, 04:30 PM
Sprinklin some Get Well Soon mojo dust on this thread Mike. Best wishes to the GF.

mikevillena
01-16-2013, 04:53 PM
As much as we'll miss the daily updates, it's nice to know you've got your priorities straight, Mike. I'm sending good west coast health vibes in your GF's direction.


Sorry to hear your GF having health issues. Wish her a speedy recovery!


Yeah, hope all is okay.
We'll get you back to building some stuff, for now you can participate through the other builds!


Sprinklin some Get Well Soon mojo dust on this thread Mike. Best wishes to the GF.

Thank you so very much. You guys ROCK!!! :rock: This was her second surgery that was cancer related (GI Tract). She is doing well and recovering from her 5 hour surgery yesterday. Talked to her this afternoon and she told me that she feels much better than she did six months ago. I've already promised her the best damned steak she has ever had once she's able to eat again. She's actually up at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester Minnesota with her parents this time around and she insisted firmly that I stay in Peoria to take care of the house and our Zoe (Westie). Again, thanks for all of the well wishes. I will certainly pass them on to her! :)

LoneRanger
01-16-2013, 04:57 PM
Glad she is doing well, this build is something else- very cool.

L.R.

mikevillena
01-16-2013, 05:09 PM
Was able to hang around the apartment this afternoon and got a little work done. I started fabricating the internal structures; specifically the area around the windows and doors.
Used the old masking tape trick to make a pattern for the rear window frame:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild235_zps0ed3610b.jpg
Cut out a test pattern using .010 thk styrene:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild236_zpseaa095ae.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild237_zps8f115b41.jpg
Transferred the pattern to thicker .030 styrene:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild238_zps692a33e4.jpg
Notice that the rear window area has a slight curve as it progresses towards the rear. The curve is actually compound:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild239_zps1d8cf777.jpg
Here is a good example of creating curves in styrene using my lamination technique. I have glued two pieces of .030 thk styrene flat up to where the curve begins:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild240_zps86b7b62f.jpg
Next, I bend the styrene slightly to match the compound curve of the rear window. I then applied Tamiya Extra Thin cement where the two pieces meet. The result is a nicely controlled curve on two axis on a piece that is .060 thk. I prefer this method because it gives me tremendous control without any waste:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild241_zpsd6c4f71f.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild242_zpse5b35fab.jpg
I can also do freehand decreasing or increasing radius bends using the lamination technique:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild244_zps8eaadd38.jpg
After clean up and shaping:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild245_zps7ca33046.jpg
One segment done, three more to do.

BTW, I learned this technique over 30 years ago while reading an old Airfix book on scratchbuilt warships. Another technique I learned is to apply "planking" as used on model sailing ships. I used it on my Lotus Super 7 build:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven014.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven017.jpg
I ultimately reworked the nose because it was incorrect (my error):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven021.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven022.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven023.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven024.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven025.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven026.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven027.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven028.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Lotus%20Super%20Seven/LotusSeven029.jpg

mikevillena
01-16-2013, 05:26 PM
Glad she is doing well, this build is something else- very cool.

L.R.


Thank you!!! I hope all is well with your Mustang build. :D

magicmarker77
01-16-2013, 05:38 PM
Fantastic build, more pics of the super seven please..........fabulous.

mikevillena
01-16-2013, 06:24 PM
Fantastic build, more pics of the super seven please..........fabulous.
Thanks magicmarker! Umm...the Super 7 is currently dead in the water at the moment since I don't have much time for anything else. However, it will eventually be rebuilt completely and I will ditch the Tamiya M02 and will scratchbuild the running chassis after being inspired by so many gob-smack killer builds by the skilled members in this forum. :bowdown:

Honger
01-17-2013, 09:57 AM
Notice that the rear window area has a slight curve as it progresses towards the rear. The curve is actually compound:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild239_zps1d8cf777.jpg
Here is a good example of creating curves in styrene using my lamination technique. I have glued two pieces of .030 thk styrene flat up to where the curve begins:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild240_zps86b7b62f.jpg
Next, I bend the styrene slightly to match the compound curve of the rear window. I then applied Tamiya Extra Thin cement where the two pieces meet. The result is a nicely controlled curve on two axis on a piece that is .060 thk. I prefer this method because it gives me tremendous control without any waste:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild241_zpsd6c4f71f.jpg


When you say "compound curve" you mean that the piece curves in more than one plane, right? I'm following you here, but in the last picture it really only looks like the piece is curved in one axis. Or is the other curve very subtle?

mikevillena
01-17-2013, 10:55 AM
Honger - The curve is very subtle and hard to see:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild246_zps5771e44d.jpg

Slow progress this morning. I decided to tackle the engine cover:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild247_zpse1434753.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild248_zps48fe6982.jpg
Ultimately, it will be hinged just as in the 1:1 car with functional rubber hold downs and scale support struts.

BrooklinsFinest
01-17-2013, 11:24 AM
:bowdown::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Honger
01-17-2013, 12:07 PM
So that engine cover employs your lamination method, right? That turned out ace!

mikevillena
01-17-2013, 12:13 PM
So that engine cover employs your lamination method, right? That turned out ace!

Oh no....(cough, wheeze, cough, choke)....I was stupid enough to grind the kit supplied rear cover down to the correct thickness (in this case thinness). I am covered in styrene dust from head to toe and my coffee has a thin crust of styrene dust floating on the top. Damn!!! I hate wasting coffee. But seriously, I am also thinking of fabricating the "whale tail" cover as an option:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/fiatabarth10002_zps79607c24.jpg
That would make a good candidate for lamination.

EDIT: Yet another good candidate for lamination is the seat:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/P2150005.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/P2160011.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/P2170003.jpg

mikevillena
01-17-2013, 12:15 PM
:bowdown::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Thank you...:o

SAL45
01-17-2013, 03:16 PM
Looking great Mike! That whale tail option def would stand out from the rest! I remember that seat from one of your other builds. Awesome!!

mikevillena
01-18-2013, 09:07 AM
Looking great Mike! That whale tail option def would stand out from the rest! I remember that seat from one of your other builds. Awesome!!

Thanks SAL. Flattered that anyone remembered that old build. I will resurrect it after the TCS just so I can finish it and send it off to it's rightful owner even though it's a little late...:o As to the whale tail, it is still an option depending on how badly I screw up the kit's engine cover.

mikevillena
01-18-2013, 09:15 AM
Speaking of which, I finished thinning down the cover using my large ball cutter set at crawling speed. The nice thing about my cheapo flex shaft tool (I know I've said several words that would probably elicit a few giggles) is that it develops a lot of torque at very low speeds giving me a lot of fine control. It would have been a nightmare doing that with a 20,000 rpm Dremel :blink:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild249_zps5b85ea9e.jpg
All of the louvers have cut open although some are a little wonky:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild251_zps9940be87.jpg
Adding some details to the cover. Replicated the folded lip:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild250_zps49245329.jpg
Support plates for the cover struts:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild253_zpsda4077a0.jpg
Heat stretched some styrene tubing to make the rivets (boy, I really need a manicure!):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild256_zps8034bb09.jpg
Rivets installed:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild254_zps5e85257e.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild255_zps41611a1e.jpg

MidlandRC
01-18-2013, 09:30 AM
My head is still spinning thinking about how long this would take me to do... and not of this quality either. Wow.













http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild251_zps9940be87.jpg

generis
01-18-2013, 11:41 AM
That lamination trick is great. I remember doing that on airplane builds for years, although in wood.

mikevillena
01-18-2013, 01:50 PM
My head is still spinning thinking about how long this would take me to do... and not of this quality either. Wow.













http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild251_zps9940be87.jpg
Thank you. But I don't think anyone is as crazy as I was in trying to open them up. I probably should have just used a flat black wash instead since some of the louvers weren't cut evenly. Anyway, I sure they'd do a better job than I did. :o


That lamination trick is great. I remember doing that on airplane builds for years, although in wood.
Funny how so many techniques transfer over from other hobbies and how new techniques aren't really new. Laminating was probably developed by a cabinet or furniture maker back in 14th century France or Italy.

mikevillena
01-18-2013, 02:00 PM
Well, I have to pick up the pace on this build since there's less than 49 days left before the TCS Race and I'm not sure how much time I have to spend at the workbench. Anyway, slapped on a couple of coats of the Corsa Grey. Unfortunately, Tamiya doesn't have that color in their Lacquer TS series so I've had to use the polycarb spray. It doesn't readily spray glossy and tends to orange peel easily. I was able to wet sand a little but I had to take it easy since the cover is very fragile at this point:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild260_zps280834a2.jpg
I also overlooked a dent but I will leave it as is since I'm trying to replicate a "race car" (Luigi probably lost his temper trying to adjust those damned Webers that he punched the cover!):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild261_zps307f2933.jpg
To spur and tease myself onwards:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild259_zps3e885b74.jpg

SAL45
01-18-2013, 06:38 PM
Loving the details Mike! That hatch came out awesome! What patience you have to cut all that out!

UNGLEWD
01-18-2013, 11:16 PM
The lid looks so much better with the louvers cut.
This should be an entertaining few weeks on the little Fiat.
Watching the cool tips on templates for the interior panels has me wanting to do the same on the GT2

mikevillena
01-19-2013, 02:46 AM
Loving the details Mike! That hatch came out awesome! What patience you have to cut all that out!

Thanks SAL! Hopefully some of the flaws aren't too noticeable.


The lid looks so much better with the louvers cut.
This should be an entertaining few weeks on the little Fiat.
Watching the cool tips on templates for the interior panels has me wanting to do the same on the GT2
You know, that's one of the things that at least IMHO kills the scale realism of just about every bodyshell that I've seen; the lack of internal structures around the windows. Real cars don't have just the single layer of sheetmetal holding the roof up. Even race car interiors that have been gutted will show internal structures.
I've tried to replicate that in some of my in process builds:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Mini%20Cooper/MiniCooperF002.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild262_zpsaccf6573.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/P8110033.jpg

imthatguy
01-19-2013, 06:48 AM
Awesome detail Mike. Can you share what the primer/grey product is that you use? It looks like a filler of some type.

mikevillena
01-19-2013, 07:13 AM
Awesome detail Mike. Can you share what the primer/grey product is that you use? It looks like a filler of some type.

Hiya Matt (hope I got the name right). I use several types of primer & filler/primers:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild263_zpsb170166f.jpg
I believe the filler/primer paint simply has more particulates or filler (not sure what the correct term is) so it can actually fill small pits and imperfections. Otherwise it's just like plain primer. I've just picked up the Primer Sealer so I haven't fully experimented with it but I think it isolates the previous paint film so as not to bleed into the next coat. I most often use the Filler/Primer in the small touch up bottle:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild264_zpsa2bd58b7.jpg
It's useful in creating fillets in assemblies in which I am trying to replicate stamped/swagged sheetmetal structures or in cast parts and of course welds. I "visually" blend the glued parts together.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/PB030007.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/PB040008.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/PB050017.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/CUSTOMER%20001%20HPI/P1010007.jpg

The small bottle is rather expensive at around 8 bucks but you can simply decant the spray filler/primer into a small paint bottle. Let it stand for a few minutes to thicken and you can apply it with a small brush. Hope this helps.

imthatguy
01-19-2013, 07:28 AM
Helps tremendously! Thanks Mike.

Toykid
01-19-2013, 09:12 AM
Like many others have said, simply amazing. Both inspirational and informative. This thread is making everyone better, thanks for sharing.

James.

mikevillena
01-19-2013, 09:41 AM
Helps tremendously! Thanks Mike.


Like many others have said, simply amazing. Both inspirational and informative. This thread is making everyone better, thanks for sharing.

James.

Thanks to both of you :o I'm always happy to add what little I know to the collective knowledge. In the end we all inspire each other and none of use creates or lives in a vacuum.

mikevillena
01-19-2013, 09:51 AM
I've been trying to plan out what to do about the interior and how to ultimately mount the bodyshell without using the posts. I think I have a working plan. The interior floor will have to be reinforced and totally rigid because it will carry all of the stresses. Before I can start building in situ, I need to stop and mask the windows as I go. Since I've blown the original kit masks, I can easily make new ones using the masking tape trick and wax paper:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild265_zpsc65c5683.jpg
The mask will also protect the window from any wayward adhesive. The lower styrene rail will act as a stop for the cockpit floor and will distribute stresses over a large area.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild266_zpsfd1eff8f.jpg
A bit of a tease. I will be using some of this to build the front valance that's missing because of the kit's front airdam. I've used it many many years ago when I did the same thing to a 1/24th scale Ferrari Monza 750 lexan slot car body. This stuff is incredible:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild267_zps60c5c03b.jpg
Hint: this also works great for custom fender flares and dashboards.:evilgrin:

alan
01-19-2013, 11:25 AM
Thanks for the constant stream of completely useful tips, Mike (why didn't I think of the wax paper?). Louvres look amazing!!!

mikevillena
01-20-2013, 11:47 AM
Thanks for the constant stream of completely useful tips, Mike (why didn't I think of the wax paper?). Louvres look amazing!!!
Thanks Alan! :) I used to save all of my used Tamiya backing paper from my previous builds for trimming hand made masks until I thought:" hmmm....why not wax paper?" I also use wax paper for rubber band powered model airplane construction. As to the louvers, I think I'm still on the fence about using the cover.

mikevillena
01-20-2013, 11:59 AM
After a bit of problem solving I was finally able to mock up the passenger area interior side details:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild268_zpsfd28888f.jpg
I also used a very wide strip of .010 styrene onto which I glued the stop rail. This was to spread the stress over an ever bigger area. It's now very stable and strong.
A mock up of how the cockpit plate (or floor) will sit:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild269_zpsd56f0da1.jpg
My idea is to have all of the internal side structures bonded rigidly to the body shell and to have the cockpit plate fasten onto that structure using 6 small self tapping screws. I will fabricate a set of special thick styrene adapter plates that will mount onto the battery support arms (held in place by the stock battery clips) in the horizontal plane and I will attach six reinforced and gusseted body posts onto the underside of the cockpit plate. So, the plate will bolt onto the side structures with 6 self tapping screws and the cockpit plate will in turn attach to the adapter plates using 6 screws. This way, the cockpit plate is detachable in case repairs or modifications are needed.

mikevillena
01-23-2013, 05:42 AM
Some minor updates. The curvature of the bodyshell required lamination during the internal detail build out:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild271_zps9547254a.jpg
I also included the internal track that will accept the partially rolled down side glass:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild272_zps2e9c84a9.jpg
The vent window frame will be integrated with the window trim in the same manner as the 1:1
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild273_zpsc3fac5a2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild270_zpsa10c5164.jpg

mikevillena
01-23-2013, 12:45 PM
It has been literally decades since I did any metal work; my last completed project was a scratch built 1/24th scale space frame for my Russkit Ferrari 156 (trying to get my buddy Mark to snap a pic). I found some nice scale plans in an old Airfix slot car magazine and I used brass micro tubing and silver solder. I believe that was my finest work. Anyway, I've forgotten how challenging metal work is when I tackled the hinges for the engine cover. My first piece turned out well but I got clumsy and it flew off of my tweezers and is now forever lost in the pile carpeting. IMHO, pile carpeting is an abomination and a black mark in human history....but I digress.
Second stab at this:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild274_zps5ca89d6e.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild275_zpsf9ac62a3.jpg
It looks like crap but I needed to see if it was possible without resorting to photo etching. Will try so more.

MidlandRC
01-23-2013, 02:03 PM
IMHO, pile carpeting is an abomination and a black mark in human history....but I digress.




:laughing: Your metalwork looks pretty good Mike, to be so rusty (pardon the pun... couldn't resist).


Trim pieces are just too cool. Amazing how you see everything in pieces and sections and know how to replicate them in scale.

UNGLEWD
01-23-2013, 02:22 PM
The depth of the interior metal panels adds so much to the look of these bodies... class is in session.

SAL45
01-23-2013, 03:15 PM
Wow!!! Awesome details Mike!

mikevillena
01-23-2013, 03:54 PM
:laughing: Your metalwork looks pretty good Mike, to be so rusty (pardon the pun... couldn't resist).



Trim pieces are just too cool. Amazing how you see everything in pieces and sections and know how to replicate them in scale.
Thanks. Hahaha......I am certainly rusty LOL! Everything man made can be broken down into simple geometric shapes and solids. A useful frame of mind is to think of how the real 1:1 item is made. Well, at least most of the time. :laughing:


The depth of the interior metal panels adds so much to the look of these bodies... class is in session.
Thanks Kev. I hope I can pull off the scale illusion. I'm trying to be patient but there's so much needed even in a relatively simple interior. I haven't even started on the dash board GULP!


Wow!!! Awesome details Mike!

Thank you SAL! :rock:

mikevillena
01-23-2013, 03:58 PM
Well, I cobbled up the other part of the hinge. It's pretty fugly since I messed up the bend:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild276_zpseb19c6e6.jpg
Proof of concept:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild277_zpsd1508567.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Abarth/AbarthBuild278_zps90a3c639.jpg
I have yet to break out the soldering iron so the tapered tail is really bad. I might graft on a piece of styrene which should be a lot easier to shape. Anyway, it can be done. I will go out and buy the mini anvil that I saw at my local arts and craft store and figure out how to make crisp and sharp bends so that I can build a proper pair. Thanks for looking. orangechat

mikevillena
01-23-2013, 11:44 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/AbarthBuild279_zps5ec32d11.jpg

alan
01-24-2013, 11:48 AM
Badabing badaboom! Styrene grafted!:bowdown:

Glad to see you're giving the louvred unit a chance, Mike.

Metal Masher
02-25-2013, 08:41 PM
I've been lurking on here for sometime but with my builds being crawler related, and posted on RCC, i haven't posted them up here. you might change that. Your talent absolutely amazes me! I've followed your work for a long time and i'm just at a loss for words with the attention to detail. You have given me inspiration to tackle the detail work i want to do on my aluminum scale toyota and the tips you have given here will be invaluable in helping me.

I'm truly appreciative!

Ikaros
02-26-2013, 03:12 AM
btw Where's Mike ?

alan
02-27-2013, 02:20 PM
He mentioned some family illness a while ago.
Hope everyone is doing ok, Mike!

louisbaby
02-28-2013, 07:26 AM
Absolutely amazing Mike. Hope all is well with your GF. Can't wait for more updates on this crazy creation...

mikevillena
03-11-2013, 06:21 AM
Hi guys. First of all I thank all for the very kind words of concern and prayers. Linda is doing well now despite several setbacks. Unfortunately, life changes always get in the way and I had to pull the plug on my hobbies. I am giving the entire bulk of it to my friend David as part of my efforts in minimizing my footprint as I prepare to move elsewhere in hopes of getting a job and a fresh start. Sadly, this hobby that I love so much won't be a part of it. Again, I thank all for their very kind words of encouragement. Although our time together was all too brief I enjoyed everyone's company and I wish everyone great success in all of their endeavors. Thank you all very much!

Mike Villena

TheOtherSide
03-11-2013, 07:00 AM
Hi guys. First of all I thank all for the very kind words of concern and prayers. Linda is doing well now despite several setbacks. Unfortunately, life changes always get in the way and I had to pull the plug on my hobbies. I am giving the entire bulk of it to my friend David as part of my efforts in minimizing my footprint as I prepare to move elsewhere in hopes of getting a job and a fresh start. Sadly, this hobby that I love so much won't be a part of it. Again, I thank all for their very kind words of encouragement. Although our time together was all too brief I enjoyed everyone's company and I wish everyone great success in all of their endeavors. Thank you all very much!

Mike Villena

Hello Mike,

Glad to hear that Linda is doing well. That's the most important part of life... your family. Totally sucks to leave behind a hobby when you make a life change... especially when you have the talents that you do. Hopefully that hobby itches at you one day when the timing and situation is right... and maybe we will see your Artwork again! Dropping a hobby like this when you have the talents and time spent that you have is a tough decision... and obviously made for a good reason.

Take care... and thanks for all your tips as I very very slowly work away at my 240Z project... The Mike Villena Steam Method of bending styrene is my favorite new technique!!

All the best!

alan
03-11-2013, 02:40 PM
Very well said, TheOtherSide.

Thanks, Mike, for inspiring me to take on bigger challenges in this hobby.

All the best!

Ikaros
03-12-2013, 10:21 AM
Al the best Mike!

UNGLEWD
03-12-2013, 11:00 AM
We hope to get you back again Mike, take care my friend!

Joe Joe
03-12-2013, 11:02 PM
Truly one of the builds I looked forward to seeing every update. Much like hearing Mozart had to stop writing music, you are a real artist. I will miss your builds. But family always comes first take care and I look forward to seeing your artistry hopefully some day in the future. Good luck.

mikevillena
03-13-2013, 06:09 AM
I hope to drop in once in a while to follow the truly extraordinary builds and the equally skilled hands of our members. I suppose it would be a little like an reformed alcoholic stopping by to visit his drinking buddies. I mean that in a positive way. A magnificent obsession of sorts. Anyway, thank you all for the support and kindness. Happy building, head scratching, innovating and "light bulb" moments to all of you.

mikevillena
02-11-2014, 02:38 PM
Well, it's been almost a year and the place is absolutely chock full of superb builds! I'm going to have to take several days just to check them all out. Hats off to everyone! ::2thumbs
I eventually chose to hang onto my hobby stuff and it occupies a goodly amount of closet space. The Abarth is still sitting faithfully in it's box waiting for me but I don't have much time these days as I've been trying to get my career on the right track. And my projects are confined to "virtual" stuff...for now: (Designed and modeled in PTC Creo 2.0 and rendered with Keyshot 4.0)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/3D%20Models/EngineProject75_zps5406e64f.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/3D%20Models/cut_awayenginecomplete77_zps41837e3b.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/3D%20Models/untitled67_zpscd7b6d73.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/3D%20Models/spaceframe63_zpsb7cc8292.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/3D%20Models/RadiatorAssembly2_zps966ded10.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/3D%20Models/RadiatorAssembly_zps0e83ac19.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/3D%20Models/frontsuspension78_zpsc2370530.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/3D%20Models/untitled21_zps08d1e01e.jpg
I do miss the smell of Tamiya Lacquer and styrene dust.....:laughing:

UNGLEWD
02-11-2014, 03:09 PM
While you miss it, Kev's built up some sever alergies to it!
I've been looking at upgrading the old design machine and bringing home some 3D software updates.
The renderings look great, I miss dabbling with that stuff.

mikevillena
02-12-2014, 02:30 AM
While you miss it, Kev's built up some sever alergies to it!
I've been looking at upgrading the old design machine and bringing home some 3D software updates.
The renderings look great, I miss dabbling with that stuff.

Kev, you can download both PTC Creo and AutoDESK AutoCAD along with InventorPRO (Academic Versions) for free if you have a functioning student e-mail account. The Academic (free) license for AutoDESK software (AutoCAD & Inventor) lasts for two years which is the most generous. PTC's license only lasts for one year. All of these design software will allow you to generate your design in 3D and export them in various file types. Which leads to 3D printing. I just looked at one:
http://store.makerbot.com/replicator2?gclid=CJHYkfStxrwCFatcMgodSHAAFg This printer uses plastic wire. What I'm thinking is that you can design or model an engine block, 3D print it in the correct scale and use that as a master to make an RTV mold for resin casting copies. There are many other 3D printers out in the market right now but that one is very attractive given the 2 grand price and the print resolution. Just a thought. Wish I had both the time and money to invest right now. ;) BTW, you can try KEYSHOT for free (30 day trial) but it has limited functionality. I used my school credentials (Adjunct Faculty at my community college) to purchase the Academic Licensed Version (full functionality) for around 200 bucks. http://keyshot.com/ Check out the gallery for some amazing stuff!

Ikaros
02-12-2014, 03:05 AM
Hey Mike, good to hear something from you!

UNGLEWD
02-12-2014, 05:55 AM
Thanks for this Mike, I do happen to work for a school so I have access to educational discounts on most of my stuff.