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madhatter
12-19-2010, 06:47 PM
It's looking like my schedule is going to be to busy to be building a body from scratch for my SYCO build.

So I have decided to attempt another build I have been kicking around for a while. This will be a accessory of sorts for my stubby crew build.
The "plan" is to build a slammed version of my lifted truck to haul it around on a trailer.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/TexMex0337.jpg

Both trucks will have similar paint, wheels, etc . Just one will be a lifted show truck and the other will be laid out.
Here's a quick mock up shot with the stubby cab.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/a741657c.jpg

jeenyus
12-19-2010, 07:02 PM
Sick! what are you gonna run for frame and gear?

madhatter
12-19-2010, 07:30 PM
Sick! what are you gonna run for frame and gear?

I'm going to build my own frame out of steel. The running gear will be a little bit of every make and a bunch of custom stuff.

Parts list so far;
MRC motor and trans
Tamiya hummer front suspension (narrowed)
RC Channel rear diff
Possibly working air ride (still working on that one)

jeenyus
12-19-2010, 08:26 PM
thats gonna be a wicked super duty man. definitely sub'd

madhatter
12-20-2010, 06:47 AM
Well the diff has just been ordered from RC channel's ebay site:confused: hopefully all goes well there.

While I was there I figured I would pick up some of their wizzy rod end, since the rear suspension will all be exposed.

Now I play the waiting game.:dry:

madhatter
12-20-2010, 10:37 PM
Started working on the frame tonight. I got the front end started, but the control arms might still have to be moved in further.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/954baa0f.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/a5f6cd3f.jpg

UNGLEWD
12-22-2010, 07:33 PM
Interested to see this years indy front ends as the hobby moves closer to "streetable" front ends.
Did you mention the actual budy you're stretching? It's a Ford but not that one! shhh

madhatter
12-22-2010, 07:39 PM
So. . .
I have decided that the hummer front end is out, It's just too bulky. So after doing some digging around I found some smaller losi spindles off the lst2.
Now thanks to my wonderful wife, I have a drill press to build some custom A arms for the losi spindles:biggthumpup:

Is it bad that I want Xmas to be over so I can get back to work on this?

madhatter
01-01-2011, 02:11 PM
Interested to see this years indy front ends as the hobby moves closer to "streetable" front ends.
Did you mention the actual budy you're stretching? It's a Ford but not that one! shhh

Well I'm afraid I'm not going to able to wait for the new Indy stuff, so it's going to have to be alot of scratch built stuff.
The body I'm using will be an old jugg body to give me stock wheel well openings. I'm just using the stubby cab for mock up. Both trucks will have the same theme though so they can be showed together.

I did get some more parts for the build this week!:luxhello:
The front spindles - lst2
Front stub shafts - MRC
Wheels - matching ls406 drift wheels like the stubby build
Tires - HPI wide low pro
Disc brakes - 3racing aluminum

The RC channel diff and rod ends are in town apparently, but I missed the mailman yesterday so I'm stuck waiting till Monday.:p6639707:

Thanks to natman I picked up a complete lst2 for some steering components too.

madhatter
01-01-2011, 11:39 PM
Finally got out to the shop tonight to get some work done.

I wasn't happy with the frame being that narrow so I bent up a new one and got a better cross member built.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/0c9b56c8.jpg

I also got the spindles figured out. After too many attempts to make the stock geometry fit I realized I needed dropped spindles to go this low.
The spindle drops and lower control arm parts are just temps to get everything to pivot properly. I will be building proper ones this week hopefully.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/2104fa90.jpg

But it looks like the tires will tuck nicely in the fenders. Here's the stubby cab.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/018e2217.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/415c545f.jpg
And a shot with the jugg cab to show the difference in the fender opening.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/18a92689.jpg
one more
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/8dc3d2cd.jpg

.-.
01-01-2011, 11:46 PM
this thing is going to be awesome .........are you going to put it on airbags too...........wicked job so far

madhatter
01-02-2011, 12:24 AM
this thing is going to be awesome .........are you going to put it on airbags too...........wicked job so far

Thanks.
I am working on putting airbags in it, they won't be air actuated, but should expand and compress when the truck goes up and down.

UNGLEWD
01-02-2011, 12:43 AM
What ...no function on the air ride? JK
These low trucks are going to be nuts! I'll be shopping for some front end components for my scale muscle car build and the R&D you guys are doing on the front ends will really help. Maybe we're in the market for some serious machined components?

madhatter
01-02-2011, 06:59 AM
What ...no function on the air ride? JK
These low trucks are going to be nuts! I'll be shopping for some front end components for my scale muscle car build and the R&D you guys are doing on the front ends will really help. Maybe we're in the market for some serious machined components?

I'm sorry Kev:nonono:
The air system was dragging the progress down. I still haven't given up on it, just not right at this moment.

As for the machined parts.... A fella needs to come up with a ball joint that will thread into these little spindles.:nod:

madhatter
01-06-2011, 12:25 PM
Alright, this project has now turned into a mission.

Since I want to haul my stubby crew with it I figure it should go duals. So dually it will be. I did manage to figure out ball joints for the front control arms so the LST2 stuff is getting ditched for scratch built upper and lower control arms.:luxhello:

Now... since I really want to do air bags in the rear, I need to find something suitable to use for the bags. Any ideas would be great. They need to be about .75 to 1'' max diameter. Basically some type of rubber accordion boot would be the ticket.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/24njzfs.jpg
Like so.:beerchug:

.-.
01-06-2011, 12:57 PM
you could probably use some 3/4 inch plastic wire loom just glue the cut in it with some black silicone so it still moves .....maybe it would be to stiff to move with the suspension ....just an idea

.-.
01-06-2011, 01:01 PM
oh oh oh i just had another idea to replicated those bags they wont be functional but they would look so close.....you can use some black rubber 1/2 inch fuel line from lordco or something of the sort and just stack up some black rubber o-rings around it to replicate the rippled airbags....things that make you go hmmm

Ax-hole
01-06-2011, 01:18 PM
I have seen some accordion style boots on 1:1 power door lock actuators, might be difficult to make them work with air but maybe you could make a mini servo screw drive for the action.:beerchug:

crawlerpawl
01-06-2011, 02:07 PM
The airbags I've seen them install on tv shows weren't accordion, so maybe you could glue up a set from a piece of ten-speed bicycle tire tube.

Hillbillycrawler
01-06-2011, 04:53 PM
retractable landing gear for and airplane might be the ticket and just make look a like air bags.Air shocks with bags.

UNGLEWD
01-06-2011, 05:04 PM
My vote's for large rubber O Rings stacked then heat shrunk to make it look like a collapsed bag

Hillbillycrawler
01-06-2011, 05:24 PM
you can hide the retracts in the fake air bags.Thats if you want the truck to go up and down

Copious
01-06-2011, 05:39 PM
Ok I am gonna give up my plan cause I haven't yet done it. I was going to do a bagged vehicle to but since you are already on one here was my plan.

the bags were going to be the finger tips from a good sturdy set of black rubber gloves then I would build a plastic top and put a small fitting from the fuel tank of a nitro rc into the plastic cap. make a block from plastic with 5 holes in in and 5 of those fittings 4 for each are bag and one that would go to a servo powered seringe that was neatly tucked in the frame rails and duisquised as a fuel tank. The round end of the bags would sit on a cone mounted to the top of the axle housing like a tractor trailer. Hope that helps:biggthumpup: go for it man

.-.
01-06-2011, 05:48 PM
thats a great vision you had there copious ....that would work

generis
01-06-2011, 06:55 PM
wow that tube bag syringe thing is a killer idea :bugeyes::bowdown:

Apollo133
01-06-2011, 08:07 PM
Hey, just occurred to me seeings how i used to build bikes all the time what about the rubbers off vee brakes??

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab178/ShaneApollo/jagtefkit.jpg

Maybe too small i dunno?

madhatter
01-06-2011, 08:17 PM
Wow thanks for all the replies guys. Theres been some good food for thought.

As for the functioning of the air system, I have tracked down all the stuff needed to do a working system with rc plane goodies.
The biggest problem is that the truck will likely be in the 12+lb range so that ever I do needs to hold pretty good pressure.

I will have to look into the glove deal for sure. The brake parts I think might be too small diameter though.

I am going to try tracking down some inner tube from a road bike since they might be small enough diameter. Then I can stretch it over metal washers so they can be drilled and tapped for mounts.

madhatter
01-06-2011, 08:54 PM
Ok!
This ones a little big, but it was just some tube I had kicking around. I need to try it with the two big washers in the middle with smaller ones at the ends, but it just might work.:rock:
Washers glued in the ends
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/c58c9eb9.jpg
expanded
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/e954f41c.jpg
collapsed
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/d7218138.jpg

The good news is its air tight.:biggthumpup:

Copious
01-06-2011, 09:00 PM
that looks pretty good. I amagine you could do a series of washers to make that rippled look

Hillbillycrawler
01-06-2011, 09:02 PM
It looks pretty good like it is.

madhatter
01-06-2011, 10:39 PM
that looks pretty good. I amagine you could do a series of washers to make that rippled look


It looks pretty good like it is.

Yeah I'm not totally happy just yet, but its looking alot closer then I was earlier on today.
Turns out though that I can reduce the tube diameter and the glue seems to hold. I did up a smaller scale sized one. we will see in the morning if its still holding.

Hillbillycrawler
01-07-2011, 08:42 AM
will it still hold under the presure of the trailer wieght when airred up?

madhatter
01-08-2011, 02:03 PM
will it still hold under the presure of the trailer wieght when airred up?

yeah its not looking too good on that front. I think I have it worked out that I can have the airbag look, but just use servos with cantilevers.

Tomorrow will be a build day so we'll see what happens.:paranoid:

madhatter
01-08-2011, 06:53 PM
Got word today that my wheels should be done soon.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/295b6360.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/5c7f29e1.jpg

I'm so excited it's gross!!:luxhello::luxhello:

Apollo133
01-08-2011, 08:33 PM
:drooler:

.-.
01-08-2011, 08:37 PM
Now those wheels are so sick i think i am going to :puke:......man those are awesome

Chaseracer
01-09-2011, 09:51 AM
good start. this will be a cool build. I really like your air bag idea. hope you don't mind I might have to use that on my next semi truck build. keep up the good work.

alan
01-09-2011, 11:20 AM
:popcorn: Very cool!!!!

Hillbillycrawler
01-09-2011, 04:07 PM
I would use the air shock thing for the landing gear on rc planes.it still works on air and you could hide it in the midle of the air bags.if they can handle the force of landing a plane then they should be able to hold the truck and trailer.might even have some shock like bounce to them to.

madhatter
01-09-2011, 05:51 PM
I would use the air shock thing for the landing gear on rc planes.it still works on air and you could hide it in the midle of the air bags.if they can handle the force of landing a plane then they should be able to hold the truck and trailer.might even have some shock like bounce to them to.

I looked at them, but they are all too long to fit in the room that I have.

I did however get some work done today, not quite as much as I had hoped though.
Got one side of the rear frame tacked together and got the main frame pinched with the drive shaft loop in.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/d6b03d8b.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/c81d5f2c.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/d4d32e89.jpg

JasonC
01-11-2011, 02:32 PM
Awesome work on that chassis!

Who do you have uilding up your wheels?

crawlerpawl
01-11-2011, 06:21 PM
I agree with Jason, awesome job. Never seen a boxed-in frame on an rc - until now.

madhatter
01-11-2011, 06:57 PM
Awesome work on that chassis!

Who do you have uilding up your wheels?

Thanks, and guess.;)


I agree with Jason, awesome job. Never seen a boxed-in frame on an rc - until now.

Thanks again. I just figured since you were going to see so much of the frame it should be boxed. The Front section will get boxed too once I get the front and back together.

madhatter
01-15-2011, 11:14 PM
Didn't get a lot done tonight. Just finished up welding the rear rails and cut the back off the front cab.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/6f528be4.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/8e2b81af.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/a26e418e.jpg
I'm holding off welding the front and rear together till I get the wheels so I know for sure how wide the rails can be.

Headquake
01-15-2011, 11:20 PM
Such a cool looking frame. This things gonna be great, keep it up.
You really make me wanna learn how to weld. :rock:
:popcorn:

madhatter
01-17-2011, 08:37 PM
Such a cool looking frame. This things gonna be great, keep it up.
You really make me wanna learn how to weld. :rock:
:popcorn:

Thanks man. I think this one is gonna be the true test of my welding ability.

So I got two of the three cabs required cut tonight. Heres just some mock up shots, hard to believe this thing is the same wheel base as my 4x4. Just looks longer low.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/3fa99172.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/201c905c.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/c7740514.jpg
The rear fenders are gonna have to be all kinds of custom to tuck the semi wheels:blink:
And just cause I'm so excited its gross, heres a sneek peek of the rollers.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/IMAG0231.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/IMAG0214.jpg

generis
01-17-2011, 08:57 PM
wow dude, that's a ton of cab work! Glad you have some experience with that already! I'll stick to wheels, thanks! hahaha! :bowdown: I just suck at bodies! This is going to rock large when it comes together

In this pic, it looks like you have dual diesel pipes out the back behind the rear wheel! SICK!

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/d4d32e89.jpg

Apollo133
01-17-2011, 09:06 PM
Those pics make it look like some mean nasty drag sled...lol. If it's too nice i am gonna have to run over it with "The Huff".. lol HAHAHAHAHAHAdevil

madhatter
01-17-2011, 09:21 PM
[QUOTE=generis;109020]wow dude, that's a ton of cab work! Glad you have some experience with that already! I'll stick to wheels, thanks! hahaha! :bowdown: I just suck at bodies! This is going to rock large when it comes together

In this pic, it looks like you have dual diesel pipes out the back behind the rear wheel! SICK!

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/d4d32e89.jpg

The cab work doesn't worry me too much. Its the box sides I'm sweating this time around. those two tubes are just spacers to check room for the air tanks.I haven't quite decided what to do about exhaust yet.

.-.
01-17-2011, 10:04 PM
i vote for servo actuated gull wing doors on the fly with a 4th channel...... this thing is going to be sweet.....:popcorn:

jeenyus
01-18-2011, 08:21 AM
Are your tanks going to be functional!?

If not you could use a couple of CO2 cartridges and cut off the tops. they might be the right scale and shape your looking for.

madhatter
01-18-2011, 10:11 AM
I will be using the co2 tanks either way.:beerchug:

madhatter
01-18-2011, 09:35 PM
Big thanks to the club boys.:beerchug:
Got the third cab needed to finish the cab and got two Co2 tanks to build the nitrogen tanks out of.:luxhello:

madhatter
01-19-2011, 10:45 PM
Got some paint stripped tonight. Man what a pain in the butt.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/5a10f8b8.jpg

Talon_92
01-20-2011, 06:42 PM
Im really liking where this is going, gonna be real nice with adjustable suspention. And wow it look realllllllllly long:rock::rock::rock:

ChevyLuv
01-21-2011, 06:46 PM
looks good i like the work on the frame very clean.

UNGLEWD
01-22-2011, 09:33 AM
more...:popcorn:

madhatter
01-22-2011, 10:25 AM
more...:popcorn:

On hold till the wheels and tires get here. Clearances are gonna be tight so I can't really do too much till I have them.

AaronCampbell
01-24-2011, 10:56 AM
I've seen the wheels and believe me they are def worth the wait..... pictures are one thing but in person :blink: they are awsome.......

kyle_l
01-24-2011, 06:25 PM
this thing is going to be sweet, cant wait to see those wheels with tires mounted on them.

madhatter
01-24-2011, 07:08 PM
Got the wheels today.:luxhello:
They are REALLY nice!! I'm just working on anti seizing all the bolts and putting them together now. I'll get some pics up before the night is over.:biggthumpup:

madhatter
01-24-2011, 09:41 PM
Here's a few shots for the night. Its a bit of a trick getting the tires on , but once they are on they're not to bad. I'm glad I waited for the wheels to work out the suspension etc.. They tuck way more than I had planned.:blink:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/076947a7.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/d35cfbcf.jpg
It looks like I am going to have alot longer control arms then I had expected. Its a good thing.:nod:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/ec91ad88.jpg
Heres what the rear will tuck like once I get these Jugg box sides turned into Dually fenders.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/bbbade93.jpg

.-.
01-24-2011, 09:44 PM
NICCCCCCE wheels dude those are sickkkkkk........i still vote for the servo actuated gull wing doors or removable roof into the box on a servo ......hmmm

Hillbillycrawler
01-24-2011, 09:45 PM
Those are so freaking nice.this thing is going to be sweeeeeeet.

alan
01-24-2011, 10:39 PM
:mecry: I'm crying cause those rims are so beautiful.. They go perfect with your chassis which is also beautiful..:mecry:

Talon_92
01-24-2011, 10:46 PM
Wow, This is gonna be really good. Those look amazing:bowdown::rock:

JasonC
01-25-2011, 12:27 AM
Those wheels are awesome!!!! So Glad I got Chris to start into this design, mine are sitting at a post office waiting for me to pick them up....I just need to get back to town to do that.

jeenyus
01-25-2011, 12:32 AM
Looks great!!

madhatter
01-25-2011, 06:27 AM
Those wheels are awesome!!!! So Glad I got Chris to start into this design, mine are sitting at a post office waiting for me to pick them up....I just need to get back to town to do that.

They do look better then I could of asked for, I'm really glad you got the ball rolling on these too. :beerchug:
I don't think I could handle knowing they were sitting waiting for me. As soon as I knew they where in I ran down on my coffee break.:laugh:

Just realized I might have missed this, but Chris of GCM fame would be the gentleman responsible for the fabrication of the wheels. And I have to give credit where credit is due, JasonC is the man that has , by the looks of things, brought you the new semi wheel craze.:blink:

madhatter
01-26-2011, 06:52 AM
Rear frame rails welded on last night. Not much else really, it was kinda a short shop night.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/bfa44309.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/7b3fc1cf.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/87a60f1a.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/6bdc24e8.jpg
Sorry for the bad phone pics.

generis
01-26-2011, 07:13 AM
Those are fitting pretty good in there! Looking good!

UNGLEWD
01-26-2011, 07:19 AM
Now that's something to look at....WOW....great work so far

F350 Tonka
01-26-2011, 07:39 PM
Now that is cool

JasonC
01-27-2011, 01:23 AM
They do look better then I could of asked for, I'm really glad you got the ball rolling on these too. :beerchug:
I don't think I could handle knowing they were sitting waiting for me. As soon as I knew they where in I ran down on my coffee break.:laugh:

Just realized I might have missed this, but Chris of GCM fame would be the gentleman responsible for the fabrication of the wheels. And I have to give credit where credit is due, JasonC is the man that has , by the looks of things, brought you the new semi wheel craze.:blink:

I was out of town, I checked for the parcel on Friday, and then I was out until Tuesday at 4:55pm and I managed to get them. I was with my work crew, so I had to sit tight until I got to leave work, and I checked them out sitting in the dark, using my interior light to see them...then I had meetings all day today and I am now out of town...so I am going insane trying to get to work with these wheels, they were the 1 part I had been waiting on.

Ever pic you add, it just drives me nuts!!!! Your wheels turned out awesome!

The custom dual wheel era is here, by far the most expensive rc part I have ever purchased. But I enjoy working with Chris, so it adds to the fun factor of getting new parts.

madhatter
01-28-2011, 10:04 PM
I definitely think I will be doing more custom business with Chris if possible. I'm also really excited to see how the plating turned out on your wheels.

I got just a little bit of work done on the truck today. It's taking alot more figuring to work out the front control arms then I had thought. Basically I have to get the geometry right so they tuck in just enough to turn, but not too camber'd. Then it has to pivot the right amount to level out at full lift.

This is what I've worked out so far. All the arms are just for working out the angles, not permanents.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/4cdfecf8.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/42e6ac26.jpg
Here's a shot at ride height
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/8159f1f9.jpg
I ended up finding an old associated touring cars spindles, which unfortunately isn't metric, hence the axial locking hub holding the wheel on.

jeenyus
01-28-2011, 10:51 PM
Your a mastermind!

Apollo133
01-28-2011, 10:55 PM
Looking good man. :biggthumpup:

chevycowboy1985
01-29-2011, 06:49 AM
looks great love the rims

natman
01-29-2011, 08:24 AM
looks good keep it up:bowdown:

generis
01-29-2011, 08:31 AM
That's a thing of beauty! Really good thinking on that one!

hippy
02-02-2011, 08:34 PM
this is going to look good!

madhatter
02-03-2011, 10:01 PM
Not alot to report tonight again. Work on boxing the front part of the frame.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/3ab7ccce.jpg

I also started working on building the nitrogen tanks too. I just kinda wanted to know if it was going to work really.
I am using Co2 containers, but the fact that the bottom is round bugged me. So...
Tah Dah!!
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/0384bbfd.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/6a635aa1.jpg
Sorry for the crappy pics, but my shop doesn't really have the greatest light.

jeenyus
02-03-2011, 10:56 PM
man.... those look awesome, when you get them painted they are gonna look real!!

madhatter
02-04-2011, 11:53 PM
man.... those look awesome, when you get them painted they are gonna look real!!

Thanks. Still have to cut the tops down and add the valves too.
I did get the four link worked out tonight. I also got the rear bag mounts and fifth wheel mount started. Turns out you can get bags up to 14'' dia. so the bags I built first will be just fine for scale.
Heres a few shots. Don't mind the wonky bag, I just put it in there to show where its going.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/7ed3f301.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/a4ecd4b2.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/6616c356.jpg

The rest of the mount bracing will come after the cantilevers are worked out.

Hillbillycrawler
02-05-2011, 07:03 AM
This is just the coolest stuff ever.now you need to make the body out of tin

madhatter
02-05-2011, 09:18 AM
This is just the coolest stuff ever.now you need to make the body out of tin

Nah I this thing is going to be in the heavy weight category as it is even with the plastic body.:paranoid:

looking good troy
with the way the 4 link is setup does it want to roll the diff?

The diff actually stays fine.

.-.
02-05-2011, 09:26 AM
that looks awesome bud ....can't wait to see this thing all done ....have you picked a body color yet

madhatter
02-06-2011, 08:11 PM
that looks awesome bud ....can't wait to see this thing all done ....have you picked a body color yet

Haven't quite decided on color just yet. I've got some thoughts, but I need to talk to the painter about it first.

SlowKrawl
02-06-2011, 08:36 PM
This thing looks wicked troy!

Hillbillycrawler
02-06-2011, 08:48 PM
What about that new green that's on the new Camero?they with some silver and black

Chaos
02-11-2011, 11:14 AM
WOW troy, this is an amazing display of your talents man....awesome build and some great ideas being impelmented here.

madhatter
02-11-2011, 11:45 PM
This thing looks wicked troy!



WOW troy, this is an amazing display of your talents man....awesome build and some great ideas being impelmented here.

Thanks guys. I'm kinda at a stand still till the aluminum knuckles and other misc stuff shows up.


What about that new green that's on the new Camero?they with some silver and black

I have thought about green, but I am going to get it closer to finished and talk to the painter and see what he comes up with.

kyle_l
02-12-2011, 12:47 AM
with all the nice lines this truck will have i think you should go for paint job like the this one.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2769/picture058resized.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/picture058resized.jpg/)

madhatter
02-12-2011, 09:22 AM
with all the nice lines this truck will have i think you should go for paint job like the this one.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2769/picture058resized.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/picture058resized.jpg/)

I think you are seriously over estimating my body work ability.:blink: LOL

Hillbillycrawler
02-12-2011, 06:07 PM
What about this one?http://www.google.com/m/search?oe=UTF-8&client=safari&q=pics+of+Ford+F350+on+bags&hl=en&site=images&ei=QC5XTYjzOsuOtgfr27N2&ved=0CBIQ7AkwAA#i=0

JasonC
02-20-2011, 08:01 PM
What width did you get your wheels? Sames as Chris and I? Whats the part number on the tires, Ive hit a wall with motivation on my truck since I am having tire issues, hoping the great work you are doing here pushes me onward.

madhatter
02-20-2011, 10:36 PM
What width did you get your wheels? Sames as Chris and I? Whats the part number on the tires, Ive hit a wall with motivation on my truck since I am having tire issues, hoping the great work you are doing here pushes me onward.

The wheels are the same. As for the tires, I just went with regular 1.9's. But there is a bit of a trick to get the foams to fit properly. I alway use tower hobbies site to find specs on stuff like tires etc...

Ya gotta keep working on your rig, it's gonna be sweet man.

vonclod
02-21-2011, 01:37 AM
wow, some increadable fab skill going on here..very cool:bowdown:

JasonC
02-21-2011, 09:21 AM
Oh you stretches 1.9s over 2.2s? Or are these 1.9 wheels?

madhatter
02-21-2011, 09:57 AM
Oh you stretches 1.9s over 2.2s? Or are these 1.9 wheels?

2.2 wheels with stretched rubber. I guess that the benefit of being a V-dub guy, used to tire stretching.:laugh: VW insider joke.:paranoid:

JasonC
02-22-2011, 12:48 AM
Awesome, I wasnt sure if you had used the tires you had given me the part number for before were the ones in the pics or if these were different. I will have yo look into tires soon.

offgridder
03-05-2011, 10:38 PM
I just read this from start to here & I am blown away!

Talk about realistic! The chassis is incredible & those freaking wheels...WOW! I am sitting back & relaxing for this show...

Oh yea...i got the VW joke! :paranoid:

Hillbillycrawler
04-12-2011, 08:43 PM
Anything new?

madhatter
04-12-2011, 10:33 PM
Anything new?

No not really.
Unfortunately I had to get my coupe running and that's been taking up all my time. I'm hoping to get going on it again soon.

Caprinut
04-13-2011, 09:47 AM
Awesome project:biggthumpup:


You can buy real air bags to rc, they are for the big rigs..

But they do not come cheap, about $550 for a tandem set up...

http://www.tokle-modellbau.de/002.htm

madhatter
04-13-2011, 12:16 PM
Awesome project:biggthumpup:


You can buy real air bags to rc, they are for the big rigs..

But they do not come cheap, about $550 for a tandem set up...

http://www.tokle-modellbau.de/002.htm


Those are sweet. But yeah a bit pricey :blink:

I figure I am going servos since I want to be able to use it a reasonable amount. Gotta be able to run it around and drag frame.:biggthumpup:

madhatter
04-17-2011, 10:35 AM
Well folks looks like I have tied up enough of my other projects to be able to start working on this one again.:luxhello:
Decided to go with 4 servos for my suspension duty. Mainly because I didn't want to have to be dealing with a air system that constantly would need to be recharged. I figure I can hide the servos and it should all look fine.
Here's the monsters I am running.
http://www.hitecrcd.com/products/digital/robotics/hsr-5990tg.html
I figure at 417oz X 4 they should lift it fine no matter how heavy it gets.:paranoid:

JasonC
05-25-2011, 12:39 PM
Any more work on this project?

madhatter
05-26-2011, 08:36 AM
Any more work on this project?

Not as of lately, but I have to start thrashing here again. The club has been invited to a couple car shows coming up quick.

madhatter
06-02-2011, 12:40 PM
Lower front control arms are just about done and the uppers I hope to do tonight. Pics later tonight if I get them done.:givesyawings:

madhatter
06-02-2011, 10:52 PM
Pics :biggthumpup:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/b418cca8.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/f58e4bea.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/ccc0ee63.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/f5cf8a9a.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/a56cab00.jpg

Still alot of grinding and finishing to do, but its got a front end finally.:luxhello:

offgridder
06-02-2011, 10:56 PM
Man talk about one-of-a-kind! This thing is awesome... Haven't looked in a while, cannot wait to see the body on again.... Keep it coming! :bowdown:

madhatter
06-02-2011, 11:00 PM
Man talk about one-of-a-kind! This thing is awesome... Haven't looked in a while, cannot wait to see the body on again.... Keep it coming! :bowdown:

Im working on it for sure.

you are gonna have to get some spark blocks and run it at night :rock:

I'm going to be putting lighter flints in the back bumper and titanium screws along the frame.:biggthumpup:

madhatter
06-02-2011, 11:13 PM
sweeeeeeeet

have to have it done for street wheelers. show up all the real guys
LOL

Well it will be out for street wheelers, but probably not running. It will be at the Dropcicles side show Saturday.

alan
06-03-2011, 11:25 AM
:popcorn: Oh good! We're back on....

promod
06-03-2011, 12:43 PM
nice job looks great so far!!!!!!

madhatter
06-03-2011, 01:01 PM
Thanks guys
I did some figuring today and it looks like I got torsion bars figured out for the front end.

generis
06-03-2011, 06:29 PM
TAMIYA has the perfect one from the rear of their sand buggy

Hillbillycrawler
06-03-2011, 11:20 PM
Man I love this thing.

madhatter
06-04-2011, 11:46 AM
TAMIYA has the perfect one from the rear of their sand buggy

I did some testing and I am going to be using the spring steel that the leafs are made out of for the bars. It is fully adjustable in length, strength and easily bolted up to the truck.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/ff963aca.jpg
This one show how it bolts to the lower control arm. Kinda hard to see but..
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/f5b9f93f.jpg

And finally a shot of how the wheels camber out when laid out.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/328d856f.jpg

UNGLEWD
06-04-2011, 12:30 PM
Very nice idea on the spring steel... a little flex should relieve some tension.
When you take this to the shows, jaws will drop as the truck does! :bowdown:

madhatter
06-04-2011, 12:48 PM
Very nice idea on the spring steel... a little flex should relieve some tension.
When you take this to the shows, jaws will drop as the truck does! :bowdown:

Its quite springy just with the testing I've done so far. Biggest thing is I only have to fit tiny shocks up front now and it keeps the servos tucked out of the way so it doesn't interfere with the interior.

madhatter
06-04-2011, 11:43 PM
A bit more progress
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/a7a322bf.jpg
With the steering mocked up a bit
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/f32428a8.jpg
For anyone questioning the strength of the torsion bars,
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/88c759de.jpg
A shot of the motor placement
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/42ab7f9e.jpg
And finally a mock up of the placement of the mechanical
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/c8da8454.jpg

Apollo133
06-04-2011, 11:49 PM
cool man, you kicked butt today :rock:

madhatter
06-05-2011, 06:27 PM
Got a ton done today. Got the rear suspension finally finished and the steering figured out. The steering servo is just mocked in place to check clearances so don't mind the crookedness.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/c14c3d1e.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/7ab70ed6.jpg
The links connecting the servos to the cantilevers are turned down TLT shocks with savage shafts and internal springs. They lift the truck but still give it suspension.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/4ef3a8a2.jpg
I'm waiting on my fourth servo for the rear hence the odd servo on the passenger side.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/739a5d75.jpg

offgridder
06-05-2011, 07:57 PM
Holy sh*t! That is incredible, creative thinkin' at it's best! Took me a minute just to realize everything that was going on in that chassis! WOW! :bowdown:

Headquake
06-05-2011, 08:02 PM
Wow! Such great work man. Your skills with scratch making all this steel stuff is amazing. So cool.
Can't wait to see this thing move. :popcorn:

generis
06-05-2011, 09:38 PM
That's a lot of wow right there! NICE!

madhatter
06-05-2011, 09:56 PM
Thanks guys
The whole thing might be a bit redneck, but it shouldn't matter too much when it's drag'n down the road sparking away.

The biggest problem I'm having is getting ahold of a servo programmer. I can't find anyone in town with one and there out of stock at the shop.

alan
06-06-2011, 02:56 PM
:Wow1:............ Wow....

Dukk
06-06-2011, 08:11 PM
Fantastic ideas for incorporating both spring and height adjustment in the front front and the back. Very cool.

madhatter
06-07-2011, 03:14 PM
I picked up the "flint blocks" for some spark action when it's laid out and driving. I found torch striker refills that thread on. I'll be mounting them to the bottom with the spring steel so they have some give for the bumps.

madhatter
06-08-2011, 10:15 AM
I think I have finally decided on a color. Looking at green along the bottom to the belt line with black or charcoal on top. That's unless someone want to buy it when I'm done and wants a different color.:paranoid:

madhatter
06-12-2011, 11:01 PM
Well after calling around to just about every hobby shop in Canada, I finally tracked down a servo programmer.
So after some initial programming and testing, I tore an upper control arm mount off. Guess I need to do a bit more welding before I try again. But! So far it looks like it's gonna work out. Woo!!

madhatter
06-14-2011, 06:23 AM
Ok
Mount fixed and front servos setup. Now how bout some vid action?[[[
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/th_b547f408.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/?action=view&current=b547f408.mp4)

Forgive the cell phone vid.

Apollo133
06-14-2011, 06:35 AM
:biggthumpup:

natman
06-14-2011, 06:47 AM
that is awesome :bowdown:

imthatguy
06-14-2011, 07:00 AM
Very, very cool man. This is going to be a fantastic ride when it's all finished. Hard to beat in ST4 as well!

madhatter
06-14-2011, 07:29 AM
Thanks guys.
Unfortunately after all the messing around trying to find a programmer, it turns out the robot servos in the back won't reprogram.:confused:

So.... I guess we are going to break down and do some soldering:nonono:

madhatter
06-14-2011, 07:30 AM
that looks so real
the way it is slower to go up then just drops
its so cool
is it going to be able to do each servo seperate? or is it going to be just front and just rear?

Eventually I might do each servo separate, but for now it will be just front to back.

madhatter
06-14-2011, 08:58 PM
Alright. So it turns out the root servos I have are no longer programmable.:dry: Turns out the program Hitec used to have for doing it, they don't have anymore.:mad:
So... I talked the the tech guy and he figured I could Y the robot and the 7000 series servos together with out issues. So I swapped one robot and one standard around for now to getting it working for the car show.
But they act completely different so two more servos will be in order as soon as they come back in stock. :nonono:

Now for the good part! IT LIVES!!!
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/th_4ba8d6b0.jpg (http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/?action=view&current=4ba8d6b0.mp4)

Again, sorry for the vid quality, but it kinda hard to film and work the radio smoothly.

generis
06-14-2011, 09:06 PM
This is the single most sickest thing I have ever seen in the modelling community in all my 37 years of life.
Absolutely hands down madhatter worship :bowdown: All the other things that came to mind to write won't pass the censor machine.

RCFreak
06-14-2011, 09:58 PM
Thats wicked Troy , good job cant wait to see this one finished with paint :biggthumpup:

Hillbillycrawler
06-14-2011, 10:27 PM
This is just plane sick

hippy
06-14-2011, 10:29 PM
:biggthumpup::bowdown:WOW is that ever cool! looks right! awesome work! :beerchug::popcorn:

alan
06-16-2011, 11:37 PM
:bowdown: The action is so smooth! Your servo perseverance definitely paid off. Very naughty rig!!:biggthumpup:

imthatguy
06-17-2011, 07:08 AM
Really looking good man, top contender for ST4, without a doubt. Question for you, do you think you'll need to make some sort of lock for the servos? I only ask because I wonder if there's enough torque to keep them in position when going over bumps in the road.

madhatter
06-17-2011, 07:21 AM
Thanks for the kind words everyone. Hopefully I can keep this pace up to finish.:paranoid:


Question for you, do you think you'll need to make some sort of lock for the servos? I only ask because I wonder if there's enough torque to keep them in position when going over bumps in the road.

Actually thats why I spent the big money on servos. They are around 400+ oz of torque. With four of them, they pretty much stay where they're put under power.:nod:

Ax-hole
06-17-2011, 10:21 AM
Awesome! Sick mechanical enginnering and a great looking chassis, you nailed it!

imthatguy
06-17-2011, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone. Hopefully I can keep this pace up to finish.:paranoid:



Actually thats why I spent the big money on servos. They are around 400+ oz of torque. With four of them, they pretty much stay where they're put under power.:nod:

Very cool man! Thanks for the answer to my question.

Little Guy
06-17-2011, 08:40 PM
You said that you Y connected your servos. When I did this for my Bug Project a few years ago (I'll post a link in a sec) I had to get the ones they use for 4 Wheel Steer Rigs so that the two front servos would go opposite each other to acheive the same amount of lift. I take it you're using some kind of airplane radio. then? One stick will drive and steer, and the other is for the raising and lowering?

Seriously cool build. I'm so jealous.

My old car action happens at 2:25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCTEojClsog&feature=player_embedded#at=145

Apollo133
06-17-2011, 10:51 PM
You said that you Y connected your servos. When I did this for my Bug Project a few years ago (I'll post a link in a sec) I had to get the ones they use for 4 Wheel Steer Rigs so that the two front servos would go opposite each other to acheive the same amount of lift. I take it you're using some kind of airplane radio. then? One stick will drive and steer, and the other is for the raising and lowering?

Seriously cool build. I'm so jealous.

My old car action happens at 2:25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCTEojClsog&feature=player_embedded#at=145

that was pretty sweet :biggthumpup:

madhatter
06-18-2011, 07:12 AM
You said that you Y connected your servos. When I did this for my Bug Project a few years ago (I'll post a link in a sec) I had to get the ones they use for 4 Wheel Steer Rigs so that the two front servos would go opposite each other to acheive the same amount of lift. I take it you're using some kind of airplane radio. then? One stick will drive and steer, and the other is for the raising and lowering?

Seriously cool build. I'm so jealous.

My old car action happens at 2:25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCTEojClsog&feature=player_embedded#at=145

Thanks for the compliment.
To answer some of your questions, I am running a standard servo Y-harness. I picked up a servo programmer to reverse one front and one back servo. This makes it so you don't need the reversing Y-harness. The biggest reason I didn't go with a reversing harness was that they are only rated for 4.8v and I run 6.0-7.2v on this truck.

As for the radio, :paranoid: right now I have it hooked up to the throttle and steering on my 3ch just to get it working for the car show today.shhh
But yes once I get the motor and trans in I will go to a stick radio for ease of running it.

I always dug your bug too by the way.:biggthumpup:

madhatter
06-18-2011, 03:54 PM
i gots a older 4 channel air stick controller and receiver you should have asked LOL
if you want it let me know

Thanks for the offer Jer. My neighbor just offered me his old dx6 though, so I think that should work.

madhatter
06-20-2011, 10:34 PM
It drives!!!!!:luxhello:
Got to sort out the rats nest of wiring and get my BEC hooked up, but I ran it up and down the road tonight.

Once I get the wiring cleaned up, I'll take a vid.

madhatter
06-20-2011, 10:40 PM
The car show was alright. Got some interest about the TTC.

offgridder
06-21-2011, 11:42 AM
I just washed my truck with the insane amount of drool that spewed out of my mouth! Nuf said... :bowdown:

Apollo133
06-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Well i swung by Troy's house tonight to catch alil sumthin sumthin on video, check it out. (Sorry bad quality off my phone)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIHpKQK18BQ

offgridder
06-22-2011, 10:32 AM
How cool, it runs! Like the dragging, too bad it wasn't sparking....

alan
06-22-2011, 12:07 PM
More video please! Closer up, perhaps...

madhatter
06-22-2011, 12:25 PM
How cool, it runs! Like the dragging, too bad it wasn't sparking....

I haven't got the flint block mounts in yet, but they are coming.:biggthumpup:


More video please! Closer up, perhaps...

Yea it was kinda an impromptu vid. I didn't even know Shane was filming till after. There will be more don't worry.:nod:

I did notice today though, I think I got a broken spring retainer in the pass rear shock. Its coming up funky and riding low on the back corner.:confused:

madhatter
06-30-2011, 10:21 PM
So I figured out what the goofy ride height issue was. Turns out the clamp on servo arms didn't. Get tightened up.:paranoid:

Getting the wiring cleaned up enough for next weekends big truck show though. Now the next obstical is the flint blocks are some weird thread that I can't seem to find screws for.:p6639707:

Hillbillycrawler
08-18-2011, 06:15 PM
Anything new on this?

madhatter
08-18-2011, 06:51 PM
Anything new on this?

No, got it running and draggin, and now I'm tied up with other things. Wanna buy it? Lol

kyle_l
08-18-2011, 07:06 PM
No, got it running and draggin, and now I'm tied up with other things. Wanna buy it? Lol

ill give you the change in my pocket.

madhatter
08-18-2011, 09:41 PM
ill give you the change in my pocket.

Well if you got one heck of a pocket full of change....:paranoid:

Hillbillycrawler
08-20-2011, 01:02 PM
No, got it running and draggin, and now I'm tied up with other things. Wanna buy it? Lol

I wish.it would look sick pulling my trailer.evil

madhatter
09-05-2011, 01:41 PM
If anyone is interested in buying this buggy, pm me and we can do some dealing.

Headquake
09-05-2011, 02:19 PM
What? Youre not gonna finish this thing.:noway:

Why isn't anyone else sad about this? You got so far along man. Come on, screw real life, build cool trucks. Ha.
:beerchug:

imthatguy
09-05-2011, 03:35 PM
That is a shame, you've got to get it done!

generis
09-05-2011, 05:36 PM
No pressure, just 8,338 views so far! [[[

madhatter
09-08-2011, 08:41 PM
Current configuration.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/5ee11db8.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/demonictoys/jugg/5b0c1f92.jpg

UNGLEWD
09-08-2011, 08:53 PM
cool, does this mean you're still gunning for the ST win? :rock:

madhatter
09-08-2011, 10:13 PM
cool, does this mean you're still gunning for the ST win? :rock:

Well... If no one buys it and by some miracle I stop time, then maybe.:paranoid:

UNGLEWD
09-08-2011, 10:22 PM
It would be a shame not to finish but toss it up in the 4sale section if you really want to sell... someone else will love it!

kyle_l
09-08-2011, 10:32 PM
send me a pm with a price, might be able to by it at the end of the month. would look great on the trailer hillbilly is building me.

ozmudder
10-14-2011, 04:28 AM
i'd love to have this shipped to australia to mod it even further.

ChevyLuv
02-03-2012, 10:15 PM
well i was very fortunate to be able to scoop this rig up a few months ago, i had thought of finishing it up for the last buildoff but it was'nt going to be enough time to do it right.

I had been talking to heyok Al awhile ago about makeing me a custom remote for my other lowrider project i was working on before. I had a crazy idea and Al blew it out of the water and built me a crazy one of a kind remote.

there will be more updates as i get time im waiting on some more parts i want to get it operational with the new remote first before i tear it down to finish the welds on the frame and start working on some frame work for the air bags, at least look alike air bags.

well thats all for now i need to wait on some parts to arrive here are some current pictures

http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad274/bandjpuffalt/lowrider3.jpg

http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad274/bandjpuffalt/lowrider2.jpg

http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad274/bandjpuffalt/lowrider1.jpg

Headquake
02-03-2012, 10:21 PM
Yey, its alive. Right on man. It'll be cool to see it going one day. :biggthumpup:
:popcorn:

street.terror
02-04-2012, 12:41 AM
This is so hot!

imthatguy
02-04-2012, 09:08 AM
Really happy to see you back on this!

td-civ
04-03-2012, 07:49 AM
this is one sweet build love how it turned out

MATO
07-12-2012, 09:54 PM
very cool
top work buddy

BrooklinsFinest
12-03-2012, 07:10 AM
is it dead again?

caotic
12-03-2012, 04:04 PM
I think he sold it off to chevyluv